theaveng Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Are the doctor who episodes that were re-constructed by fans, considered public domain? troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 You know... that's a good question... the audio soundtrack and any stills used would probably be BBC property, so the reconstructions using 'em would probably thus not be public domain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Where did the audio track come from? I would have guessed the audio was recorded on the film... and disappeared with it. The BBC doesn't seem to have any objections to fans reconstructing the old, missing episodes. (Aside - I like you sig. Except when I first read it... I visualized the second doctor. Which doctor is it supposed to be?) troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 There's only one Doctor that would say: dear boy and then immediately ask him to stop bothering him. Doctor #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruk Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Since the BBC admits destroying the original film, I think any claim they have to them would be pretty weak if it ever came to a court battle, even though they kept copies of the audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Yeah, I thought the quote was nice ^^... I think they based Colin Baker's doctor at least partially on the first doctor's attitude. There IS a bit of merit to that argument, I think... plus, I doubt the BBC would contest it anyways, given the new Doctor Who series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 I hated the 6th doctor. Damn annoying. The 1st doctor was a know-it-all but loveable.... the 6th doctor was just an ass with a big mouth. Who's the sexy blonde in the avatar above? troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 No comment about CB's Dr...already said a lot in other threads. CB himself, lovely guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Isn't that blond girl the actress who played in "Lost in Translation" and "The island" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Ok, just for the record, as a couple of people dont know, the audio tracks were recorded by fans off of the tv when they were first broadcast. If it hadnt been for those guys, we wouldnt have that for reconstrucions! Rumours abound however that some fans similarly filmed from the screen with home cameras.......... Who knows :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 So the audio is owned by the fans, via their own private recordings.... And the video reconstruction was done by the fans. And the BBC has nothing. I think it's safe to conclude that the reconstructions are public domain..... just like the old Ed Wood movies. The original author lost the copyright via non-renewal. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Until the BBCs lawyers decide otherwise, remember this is the age of the Corporations and if they really want something - you tell em they have nothing ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Yeah, the beeb are now making their own reconstructions..... so a time might well come when they start getting all shirty about the fan reconstructions. But I will go on the record as saying this, "I personally dont think they will." I reckon this because the recordings were kindly loaned back to BBC, by fans, who care about their fellow fans, and they would risk seriously alienating their fanbase by penalising the authors of the reconstructions, who after all are only trying to correct the damage that the bbc made in the first place. So I will go on the record as saying that i dont reckon any law suits are forth coming, unless the BBC has some kind of mental breakdown........ Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Mental breakdown? HA! Well, what do you expect from a branch of the government??? "A troublesome servant and a fearful master." - George Washington troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Well, IANAL, YMMV and all that jazz, but the way I understand it, it works like this: Depending on the original contracts the BBC had with the writers, artists and so on, it's most likely that the copyright still rests with the BBC and / or authors of the stories. I refer to the author's forewords for hte New zealandish novelizations of Shada and Resurrection of the Daleks, in which it is stated explicitly that 1) Eric Saward had vetoed all 'official' novelizations, one of them after reading only one chapter 2) Douglas Adams was asked to but refused to write (or authorize, IIUC) novelizations to three of his stories. Similarly, even if it is taped from the TV during the initial broadcast (like the reconstructions), the copyright would still rest with the BBC, and it might be a hard case to claim "They destroyed the tapes, so they relinquished the copyrights", as there are cases where one dept. of the BBC thought another still held a copy, while the latter destroyed theirs because the former dept. should still have it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 I wonder what the BBC would do if, for example, the fan holding the First Doctor's Tenth Planet on Betamax, destroyed the only remaining copy? Sue him? troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 No... they'd just have to tell the fans that guy destroyed the only remaining copy on purpose, and his body'd probably show up in a nearby river at some point ^^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 Funny... but doesn't answer my question. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Yeah, id probably have to stab them as a matter of principle to be honest. Your not thinking of that hoax that was pulled just after tomb of the cybermen was sold back to the BBC are you? that so called Roger Barrett character who claimed to have it on an obselete format tape? Bizzarely enough though, I cant say im most bothered about tenth planet 4.... theres other things i'd much rather see turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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