Sly12 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Well here i go with this... i only scimmed a few the posts on this... but hey: I THINK THRESHOLD is VERY ENTERTAINING and i've seen all 9 episodes so far. i'll admit, seeing the first episode i wasn't sure if it was really a very good "scifi" show, even the second episode wasn't all to great but the more episodes that came along i realised this actually does have a great story, it's a shame people have to get all pig headed because Brannon Bragga is involved in it, I miss star trek just as much as any1 but the trust is, they've been running for over 25 yrs... there wasn't much further to go with out making another war involving the federation. Also in reply to a post saying why would u only infect a couple of people on a boat... well because if u did it to thousands in the open... other countries might just nuke the infected country off the map than let it break out. I think for the most part the characters a very interesting and at first come across quite cheesy but they grow on you quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestra Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Well I must say that I really enjoyed all 9 eps of Threshold and am sad to see it go. Brannon Braga did indeed kill Trek but he did not a bad job with Threshold, but the fact that it's been cancelled doesn't bode too well for him getting another producing job (thank goodness). He was mcuh better when all he did was write. One of the best he ever wrote was TNG S5 'Cause and Effect', absolutely fantastic ep and of course he co-wrote 'First Contact', the best Trek movie ever. He lost the plot when he got behind the scenes too much, whether the power went to his head I don't know, but it was a long way to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 well if it has not been canceled then that is great, and to further fuel the debate that i said as more of a joke than anything, mention a great female leader, one who is not surpassed by a male counterpart! or who doesn't use PMT as an excuse! Congrats! You've managed to surpass your last thoughtless comment. How do you do it? c4 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pec2000uk Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 skill and arogance i guess... lol, i am however only venting my frustration that it seems more and more that females are getting leads in TV shows, not because they are good actors, which i must say Dr. Elizabeth Weir played by Tori Higginson is not! From a Stargate perspective, RICHARD DEAN ANDERSON is an excelent "actor" as is AMANDA TAPPING. However this does not automatically make them great leaders, which i must say as the are written they are! However just as was the emphasis of the "token black man/person" in Tv shows there seems to be a movement towards lead female characters in TV shows, for example- Threshold - Carla Gugino Surface The 4400 (kinda - more like a mulder and scully duo) and Atlantis it may well be the way that this charater is written, but she is the most annoying character that i have ever repeatedly watched, she is a civilian in charge of the "safty of earth" and she is not will in to make the big choices easily like anyone faced with that kinda of responsibility should be able too, and when she does she feels "bad" about it! She just has this way of making her way seem the only correct way and she ALWAY is emphasising and pushing her point of view on people, it is just annoying! much like the word "annoying"! Threshold's lead female does this a bit, but if is in less of an annoying way, as she is willing to admit that she is wrong, however Dr. Elizabeth Weir dose not! In the most recent episodes of Atlantis, Dr. Elizabeth Weir has to interigate a memeber of staff, Cavanough, but first of all she argues with Major Caldwell, captian of the Deadulus, that she should do the interigation... why... it is as much a military matter the security of earth as it is now a civilian matter... come on Elizabeth! Yes, Cavanough is not guilty and Caldwell is a gould so once again she is proven right again, not threw her own doing but threw that of the clever writers who saved her butt! She tries to lead and be the big "woman" but just looks stupid doing it, yes there is room for strong female leaders, but if you are going to have one as your lead, atleast make her NOT annoying and NOT have the atitude the she does! Lastly http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9708504/site/newsweek/ is an excelent article on this topic, the is only one real and not fictional woman in power in the USA, and the only female leader of the country that i am part of the UK nearly killed our economy! http://www.thewhitehouseproject.org/v2/press/2005/September/20050925-baltimoresun.html , here once again talks about women in power, but noticibly remarks on the fictional rather than the factual ones... This lack of female leadership will undoubtibly change, maybe for the better or for the worse, who knows? yes females are less agressive, but then there was the amazonians and that other famous roman/greek rebel leader who i cannot remember at the minute... so in the future when we are ruled by females i will have no problem, just so long as we are not financialy bankrupt and ruled by some evil aliens who take us over after the "less agressive" females declare world peace and burn our weapons like they did in the simpsons! peace out, but not too much peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Crewman pec2000uk... I guess you just don't get it...you keep talking about weak female leaders (real or otherwise). How about the male leaders that gave most of Europe to Hitler because they were weak willed. As for the fictional ones...hey, they are written that way through no fault of their own. Complain to the writers (usually male). Men do not know how to write positive female roles/characters (at least by what I've seen on TV). Any woman who speaks up for herself is usually called a bitch while men are called strong willed and assertive take charge kinda guys. It's a sad fact...strong willed women are not well received (IMHO). c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pec2000uk Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Okay jsut to set the WW2 fact straight March 15/16 - Nazis take Czechoslovakia. March 28, 1939 - Spanish Civil war ends. May 22, 1939 - Nazis sign 'Pact of Steel' with Italy. Aug 23, 1939 - Nazis and Soviets sign Pact. Aug 25, 1939 - Britain and Poland sign a Mutual Assistance Treaty. Aug 31, 1939 - British fleet mobilizes; Civilian evacuations begin from London. Sept 1, 1939 - Nazis invade Poland. Sept 3, 1939 - Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand declare war on Germany. So infact the Allies, then Britain, France, Australia and New Zealand let the Germans only take over ONE conntry before delaring war... not HALF OF EUROPE... i do not think that letting Hitler take over places such as Czechoslovakia was "weak willed" by the allies, i mean the Americans did fuck all until they were attacked by the japanese on Dec 8, 1941, and infact the USA didnt declare war on Germany, it was the other way round! The allies, did nothing because starting a war was/is wrong, a concept GWB doesn't get, however corrupt a government may well be. However being weak willed was something that Churchill was not, i mean he stuck threw the war when pretty much every country in the war was either over-run or not in the war... Stalin, and his russian soldiers can hardly be called weaked willed, when retreat was not an option... i think yes you may have a point that male writers cannot write a strong female lead, however Threshold 7/10 episodes written by Anne McGrail (A FEMALE)... Men do not know how to write positive female roles/characters (at least by what I've seen on TV). And since this is a female writer and since Carla Gugino as Dr. Molly Anne Caffrey, is in my opinion annoying as a female lead, not quite as annoying as the lead of Stargate - Atlantis, and also since you said, that you have not seen positive female roles/characters, you are admitting that female leads, even when written by females are not great either. Now is that because female leads, cannot be portrayed in a positive light because there are no real-life people to base those roles on, or is it because females who claim to be just as equally equiped to lead as males, cannot write a fictional charater that they would like to be like! I personally have nothing against females in leadership, i just think that females feel less equal than men, however that is not the fault of the men, but the negative attitudes that they have towards men and that is not helping them to progress in the world! So before you decide to further argue with me an educated male, who respect females, please- 1 - get your facts straight 2 - realise that females, in your own words are just as in-ept as male writers! Dr Michael S Yule MSc PhD, since you seemed to quote me as just crewmen pec2000uk, now you know who i am, there is no need to "pull rank" over me in a negative detramental way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 SNIPPET: So before you decide to further argue with me an educated male, who respect females, please- 1 - get your facts straight 2 - realise that females, in your own words are just as in-ept as male writers! Dr Michael S Yule MSc PhD, since you seemed to quote me as just crewmen pec2000uk, now you know who i am, there is no need to "pull rank" over me in a negative detramental way! OK. I should have said "some" of Europe. Slip O' the tongue. Give you that one without an argurment. I never said female writers were better or worse than males writers. As for refering to you as "crewmen pec2000uk", that's your title. I was trying to be respectful but can now see how that might be taken in a negitive light. If that offended you, it was not my intention. I do not "pull rank". The rank designations simply refer to how many posts one has made. Please don't look for a slight were none is intended. Now as to your "MSc PhD". Good for you. You seem pretty proud of it. Please do not throw your education in my face as I will not do that to you. I have already taken it for granted that you are an educated individual. Please do not spoil my impression with bluster. c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pec2000uk Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 no bluster intended, however i was purly trying to educate you over your mistake or slip o' tongue glad we seem to have come to an agreement that women are equally as bad as men... i will settle for that ;) crewman mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pec2000uk Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 ps. regard for an educated discussion / verbal brawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pec2000uk Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 lol, i am petty now... or atleast a petty officer... hehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 OK. Nuff said... c4 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestra Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Threshold is now showing in Australia, so it will be interesting to see if we get just the 9 eps. aired in the U.S. or the 13 that were made. I hope there is someone in Oz able to torrent them if this is the case :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subspatial Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Has Threshold been axed? According to some media.. Threshold has been axed by CBS: http://www.tv.com/tracking/viewer.html&ref_id=32983&tid=79612&ref_type=101 Oh Please...someone tell me its not so...........?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mateya Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 it is so - we get 14 eps I belive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The producers are nuts. Another good show down the drain gone the same way as that other great show Odyssey 5. Crazy. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestra Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Sky One is now showing Threshold, and ep. 10 'The Crossing' is available on Mininova right now. They will be showing all 13 completed eps. Here is a review in the Australian 'The Age' Threshold review. The show started here a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly12 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Jesus, what is this... a handbag throwing match... it's a threshold thread... not a "women are stupid", tho both you make some valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I watched several episodes and didnt like it at all, but sorry to those that do like it. It sucks when shows you like are short lived and get cancelled. :( It's pretty unfair to the viewers/fans too when the show doesnt even have an "Ending", as has been shown with alot of one-season wonders in the past. Its a shame the guys upstairs dont let them have a few "extra" episodes or something to complete the story properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Well BSG has allready been confirmed for a 3rd season. Havent watched the other 2 shows yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p3master Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 My favourite show......damn them for cancelling this great sci-fi serie. Ive uploaded 13 episode for you all :D Goto find something else to watch :( /p3master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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