Bapman Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 don't get me wrong... I'm enjoying DS-9 and it IS a better ST with greater characters...lots of humour... an overall plot and episodes that don't get back to their Original state like TNG and ofcourse the epic space battles. BUT Are they their own !?... 'Cause I watched B-5 before and it DS-9 strikes a modified resemblence to B-5. Before you dismiss... here are somethings. 1) The stories of BOTH are based on space station BABYLON 5... on neutral territory... DS-9 on the edge of BETA Quadrant... in BAJORAN space. 2) The main hero fought in a great war. Sisko... wolf 359... Sherriden and Sinclair... Earth Mimbari war. 3) The main hero lost his wife. Sisko's wife died in Wolf 359... Sherriden's dissappeared in space. 4) The main hero is a religious ICON. Sinclair is VALEN... Sisko is the Emissary... 5) 2 major races are in conflict with each other Cardassians and Bajorans... Centauris and Narns. 6) 1 of these races had dominated the other in the past. Cardiassans occupied Bajor... Centauris ruled Narns. 7) 1 of these races join forces with the enemy. Cardassians join the Dominion... Centauris join the Shadows. 8) The Station is a strategic point... DS-9... near the wormhole... B-5 near a hypergate. 9) An uptight FEMALE first officer with an attitude. Kira Neris... Ivanova. 10) An unknown and mysterious but powerful ENEMY that starts a war. The Dominion... and The Shadows. 11) A poweful ship made with Technologies 2 advanced groups with gets mass produced later. The DEFIANT... and The WHITESTAR. 12) Intermediaries act on behalf of the mysterious race. the VORTA for Dominion... and That Human guy for the Shadows. 13) Epic space battles with fleets of ships. This is something ST has never done before and B-5 hinted on doing from the very beginning. Ofcourse most of the TREKKIES or Trek fans will deny this because after all... if ST isn't original... how insulting would be isn't it !? But remember this... JMS [writer and creator of B-5] is a huge TOS fan who was upset with TNG and pitched this Idea as the story for a ST which was obviously turned down. BUT Braga and co. did listen and read the overall plot outlines. DS-9's Dominion introduction started from Season 2... when B-5 has already shown the shadows. The only 1 one of these things that doesn't coincide with Season airing is the DEFIANT and WHITESTAR. Defiant was show before the Whitestar. BUT JMS could've said this whn he pitched it originally or maybe they ACTUALLY made something on their own like the Changelings. You might go its all open to interpretation but it's too much of a blatant ripoff to be seen that way. Obviously you are gonna modify it just enough so that it feels different but at the same time keeps the original cool ideas. and that's wht they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I disticntly remember there was a rather lengthy discussion about that in this same forum no more than 1 or 2 months ago... You might wish to have a look at what was said by the people involved in the discussion. For your convenience, I'll provide a few links: http://tracker.thompson-web.org/forum/index.php?a=topic&t=4332 http://tracker.thompson-web.org/forum/index.php?a=topic&t=4834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 You probably ought to search for ths - there are two lengthy and heated threads about this. Edit: oops too slow... but yes, I'd say the previous discussions were rather exhaustive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapman Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 Sorry Chief and Tetsuo... forgot to search. My bad :( How about closing/locking the topic then !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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