sqw68 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Just read that there is a planned spin-off series following Captian Jack. Anyone got details and what are your thoughts? Great site btw - only just discovered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqw68 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 Finally got around to reading loads of other threads about this. guess you've all answered my question way before I asked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 It's called Torchwood (an anagram of Doctor Who), it's an earth based drama dealing with general spookiness and Alien invasions (sounds like and update of UNIT to me), but it's going to be more adult in nature than Dr Who. Oh, and it's on BBC 3 next year I'm really looking forward to it - maybe we'll find out about Captain Jack's past and the missing time he knowins nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Maybe this is the missing time that he knows nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Sounds absolutely awfull to me. Sounds like a bad X-files rip off but with RTD's contrived writing style and lots of soap-like drama. I dont think ill be giving it a chance personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob43434 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 It won't have nyting to d with UNIT. Torchwood is a rouge organisation that works for British Government. They exist to collect alien tech ect. without the UN knowing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Actually, they exist to collect ratings for BBC3 with everyone knowing about it.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paniq Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 LOL @ Potato I would assume that the series will have its own set of writers? Maybe some BF ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob43434 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I belive Russel T. Davis will be, like on Doctor Who, the head writer. Again, writing most of the season. As it is to be aired between season of Doctor Who, he'll probably begin writing when production of Doctor Who is wrapping up. Thus filming will be nearly complete when Doctor Who is screening. Once Torchwood is finalised, he'll be hard at work on the christmas special for 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Is the current (2) series of Dr. Who not crap enough??? They have to go and make a spin off.. captain Jack?????????? NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 @carnifex I agree!, and did you get your name from the Tyranids ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Cypha01, 40k?.. No.. I knew it was latin for executioner, but I actually took it from a character from a series of books called 'Wild Cards', a shared world series edited by George R. R. Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Although T.B was, IMHO, the best... I would have liked to see more of Colin Baker's maniac Doctor. As soon as the powers that be started to ship in the likes of Kenn Dodd and Alexei Sayle, the story line fell aways to moronic. I always loved the Gallifreyan backstory, the internal struggles and such, the broader Timelord Mythos.. but now that that trollycase Davies has gotten rid of all of that with the destruction of Gallifrey and the rest of the Timelords, the show just doesn't have any appeal for me anymore... Jeez, I was sooooo angry. The show is now set up for the youth of today with no attention span, with absolutely no regards for the fan base that screamed for it's return for twenty years, if was just figured that we'd watch it anyway regardless, that they had a captive audience... so not true. A couple of other things REALLY get my goat... what was it with the touchy, feely 'last of the Daleks' story.. not only was it an absolute LIE, were we supposed to feel sympathy for the psychopathic, genocidal machines? How about the 'Cap'n Jack character altogether.. first off he is just a plain bad actor...but also, since when do humans of ANY time period have time travel capabilities? Would the Gallifreyans not already have dealt with their obvious threat to the continuum?????? I can see this post getting kinda long ;), but OK, while I'm here... that bloody stupid sheet of skin as the ultimate in evolved humans!!OMFG!!! That crack about C.J's 'phaser' being digital 'cos it cuts square holes!! BILLY, BLOODY, PIPER as the assistant, she was a crap singer and an even worse actress (ACTRESS?!?). Eccleston screaming his lungs out at a Dalek, my god, I thought he would put on a Burberry cap and nutt it, he played the Doctor like a ned (chav).. The ridiculous regeneration scene, AND the fact that there wasn't one for Ecclescake, because Davies didn't think it would appeal to the 'new audience' (screw the real fans, eh!!). How about that we now get lumbered with lame as$ 45 minute storylines (with a few exceptions), just because it's easier to sell to the Americans (no offence to the Americans here, but it was OUR SHOW, and if there wasn't a market for it in the existing format you would never have seen it in the first place.) What about Eccleston's non-existent commitment to such an iconic part, one series and he bolts like a goose (not a bad thing, but still.. he shouldn't have taken it if he didn't want it!) Sorry, this just turned in to a rant :( but I've had this bottled up and had no other place to vent, lol. I have to stop now because I'm making myself sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Carnifex, its nice to know im not the only one here that hates the new series LOL! I completely agree with you. Personally I love most dr who from 1963-1989 (my favourite doctors being the Seventh and Second) So personally I LOVED the gallifrey mythos and backstory of the 7th doctor in season 26 and Virgin NA's, gave the series a more deeper and darker complexity and feel IMO. New series is just dumbed down, Inane, unoriginal, PLASTIC crap. And the "dalek with feelings" came across as very PC *puke*. Childish, badly produced and DUMB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Hey Cypha01 :) Glory, glory.. Up to now I've felt like a leper, everyone who I've spoken to on the matter just mindlessly accept what a travesty of the original show this has become.. It's new, it's good, it's Dr. Who... it's NOT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yes, im surprised how many fans have blindly accepted it. And I find it amusing too how some of them say the TV movie is oh sooo american..well the new series is totally americanised lol, RTD LOVES US shows and even credits many of them as his influences. Luckilly there are quite many of us who reject the "REMAKE" new series. If you're interested in reading my thoughts in more complex detail theres a thread here about it here : http://forum.niteshdw.com/index.php?a=topic&t=6051&min=25&num=25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yes, im surprised how many fans have blindly accepted it. And I find it amusing too how some of them say the TV movie is oh sooo american..well the new series is totally americanised lol, RTD LOVES US shows and even credits many of them as his influences. Luckilly there are quite many of us who reject the "REMAKE" new series. If you're interested in reading my thoughts in more complex detail theres a thread here about it here : http://forum.niteshdw.com/index.php?a=topic&t=6051&min=25&num=25 Cool, I read it, and I have to admit I do agree with what you and trebor said. I find it really difficult to accept (though I do accept people have their own opinions) the praise that the show is being given,.. great, fantastic, wonderful, superb, blah, blah (sry, to the blah'ers) when to me at least it's glaringly obvious that it doesn't even come close to being acceptable as real Doctor Who, it all just seems like extended Comic Relief clips (although even The Curse of the Dead Fish was riveting in comparision). Someone even mentioned that it was good 'cos it was like Independance day/starwars/Doctor Who all rolled in to one (not flaming that person, you have your pointof view, I have mine :)) but that would be like having my soup, main course and sweet all on the same plate, fine individually but a bloody mess all at once. I can't say a kind word about the new show, whatsoever... except that the new theme is quite good. One thing I will say... if I have 100 people saying to me how good a thing is, then I would expect to be able to say to EACH, how bad a thing is. :p (But for the sake of harmony I won't.... maybe 50 though :p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 isnt carnifex latin for executioner?? Anyway, i do reckon that the new series has some short comings. It has had some really good moments, but i agree, they have ladeled on way too much sentiment and stuff to try and satisfy the broadest audience......... way too much. Who always was an oddball show that worked in spite of the dumb public, they still got it and dug it. But the new show has in some respects been dumbed down to the point of pain... I will still watch it, and be glad that its there rather than not there, but it has some real snags............... Yeah, the dalek episode was sappy to the point of making me want to jump out of a window. it had some good bits, but the whole emotional thing just flew in the face of everything that has ever been established about daleks, weak excuses or not. SHAME ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 isnt carnifex latin for executioner?? AYE. :) And AYE to the rest of your post too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob43434 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Okay. Humans with time tarvel has been in Doctor Who for a while. Not neccessarly the human race having it, but you have to remember Galifrey isn't the only temporal power. Their are several races with time travel capabilities. The Galifrey's are Time Lords becasue it was Rassilon who anchored the vortex and they are the odlest civilisation (so they claim) but they are the most powerful. They have powers that aren't just treavelling back and forth in time. Time Lords only interferred if something grand happened that would affect the web of time. Gallifrey being destroyed wasn't RTD idea. That was done years ago in the BBC 8th Doctor range of novels. Now there is specualtion over weather or not the new series follows that time line or if it's in different universe (Doctor who already has the multiverse established). The biggest argument being that that time war was with Faction Paradox. So either he deliberatly changed it to Daleks so new fans could follow or it follows a different continuity, mayeb Big Finish's 8th Doctor. Now as for the Time Lord stopping Earth, well it is apparent in the GAllifrey audio series that Earth is fledging temporal power, but neverthless. Gallifrey's continuity is Linear. The trans duction barriers protect it's timeline from outside interferrance. So when Gallifrey was destroyed, theire was nothing to stop Earth from mastering Time Travel. As for Torchwood, watching the dvds on the weekend I noticed that Torchwood was first mentioned in the EPisode "Bad Wolf" during the Weakest Link segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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