Bob43434 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I enjoyed the Christmas special. It wasn't the best, but most neither was the the first two parts of Peter Davidsons post regenreation episode. Castrovala also spent most of the episodes focusing on the companions. I think David Tennant will be a good Doctor. And I'm looking forward to season 2. With both cybermen and Sarah Jane and K-9 in it, it looks like more links to the original series. I'm assuming as the series goes on there will be more and more links to the classic series, my on complaint with the first series being not much contnuity explored aside from the Daleks, Autons and UNIT (only the refrence to them and that he worked for them). As for the sword fight, well it isn't the first time the doctor has been in one. Tom Baker did, and Pertwee too I belive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Phobia expert Mark Kenwright, a cognitive behaviour therapist at London's Maudsley Hospital said Mrs McLaren's phobia was common. 'It may seem strange she fears something as odd as a Dalek but the fear is very real. Many phobias can be traced back to childhood experiences,' he said. He forgot to mention that the tendency to develop phobias is genetic. They are a form of anxiety disorder that is quite common, though they are usually quite treatable. I remember being terrified of the Daleks when I first saw them, but they've grown to be one of my favourite Doctor Who monsters, and I now find them quite amusing--in a horrific sort of way. They may even be partially responsible for my odd sense of humour. Several people have opined that this episode is a little cheesy. I prefer my cheese with macaroni, however, and I sure hope that somebody adds some soon. :cyclops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gathererhade Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Harriet Jones' aggressive action in murdering the aliens I thought was out of character, and to me, challenging those out there with violence is never a good idea, and it could come back to haunt her. I do hope she does atone for her actions in the eyes of The Doctor and remains in the series. Second I saw that scene, it reminded me of the Brig's actions in Silurians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Harriet Jones' aggressive action in murdering the aliens I thought was out of character, and to me, challenging those out there with violence is never a good idea, and it could come back to haunt her. I do hope she does atone for her actions in the eyes of The Doctor and remains in the series. Her explanation made sense to me, and she didn't hesitate to authorize the use of deadly force against the Slitheen, but I think she's on the way out, which is too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I agree... her position was understandable AND totally in accord with future (or past? ;)) military style spacefaring humans as portrayed in the classic series as was mentioned above. It also matches what humans would be likely to do in that situation; she was buying extra time for humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeruah Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I just hope RTD will resign and give the series to someone who actually loves and respects the show and doesn't write for people with an I.Q. of an 8-year old. Keep in mind that Doctor Who is a children's show after all. ;) Actually, Christmas Invasion is the first episode that struck me as geared toward children. Nothing wrong with that, just wasn't expecting it. I think David Tennant will be brilliant as the Doctor and I hope that he gets great material to work with during the upcoming season. A HUGE thank you to everyone capping and torrenting! What would this Doctor Who-addicted American do without you? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob43434 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Correction, Doctor Who is a family show. It started out as a childrens show but by the time Pertwee took over it had evolved into a family show as the core audience had grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Keep in mind that Doctor Who is a children's show after all. ;) It's a well established fact that 68% of the viewers of the show have always been adults and it's also a very well established fact that the series has (since the beginning) been produced by the drama department and not the children's department. Actually' date=' [i']Christmas Invasion[/i] is the first episode that struck me as geared toward children. 2 episodes of farting slitheens were broadcast in season one. I think those were aimed at children. I also think the episodes on the earth satellite were watered down to a younger audience. to Bob43434: I think Pertwee was one of the few who actually played the Doctor seriously without putting too many jokes or humor in it. I think the only time I saw him goof-off was when he did those contorted faces while attacked on meatballs 3 and when he dressed up as a cleaning woman! :-D Can you imagine how different the xmas invasion would have been with Pertwee as the Doctor and the Brigadier ordering sergeant Benton to shoot those aliens instead of trying to 'talk' to them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 "Chap with Wings there - five rounds rapid!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I'm going to go into technical details now : * Bad writing/dialogue/weak stories which rips off elements of past stories or other things in general. Xmas special ripped off The Autons, Independence Day, Highlander and Star Wars Episode 1. I guess if you havent seen any of that you wont know what im talking about. However to me it stuck out like a sore thumb, just like Russel's bad writing and the bad production. Nearly everyone in real life I know who arent really fans thought it was pants too. Also, just because something is popular doesnt mean it is also good. If so then that is a very sad outlook and its no wonder things like Reality TV and MTV/pop music generation is also popular. * The sound engineering is terrible, the levels of the music are too high, the music sounds too muddy and badly EQ'ed and the compression/dynamics is very amateurish and overdone in some places. I found it very difficult to listen to overall, and iv heard 15 year olds do better sound engineering in college classes, this is unacceptable to me as it is suppose to be a professional piece of work. * The "film" look is badly done, and reminds me alot of Canadian Television which has that certain look. The constrast looks far too dark which hurts my eyes. This is due to digital being processed by analogue hardware. I think they should of kept it purely digital. * The lighting is awfull, especially in the TARDIS..the mix of green and orange lighting is very bad on my eyes too. In purely green lighting, the tardis looked a thousand times better, I dont know why they use the orange lighting. It makes a very bad combination IMO. * The direction is not very good, alot of the camera angles I find very annoying. Again, this made it very hard for me in general to sit and watch. Alot of the scenes would of looked alot better had they been filmed better. * Poor special effects, perhaps due to not having the resources the Americans do, even though new series episodes are three times more expensive than the average US series. This isnt that important but if they want me to believe what im watching is real then they should do a better job, the period settings however looked great, but the futuristic stuff was poor. Get in some American set/costume designers for the futuristic stuff. The CGI looked like a playstation 2 game. On the positive, I thought Harriet jones was excellent and far upstaged the lead characters. She also had realism and depth, something the three main characters failed to have. She was by far the only thing I thought was any good about this episode. Also I am very much in agreement with what Trebor said, right on man! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Now I can relate to that Cypha01. Harriet Jones' actress is one of those that continually amazes me in everything she's been in. I am glad she's back for more of the new series and I for one had no problem with her pushing the button, that was one thing I thought really pained her to do - but she did it to protect the Planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 On a side note, I think they should have shown it was christmas, and stopped there. Having the santa-bots and the killer tree was going a bit overboard ^^'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I would like to put in a word for the closing theme of the Christmas Invasion. Now that I have had the chance to hear it without all the background noise, I really like it. It's too bad they didn't let it play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Now this does amuse me, why oh why when the BBC try and produce something really intresting do you get the people that dont like it pick tiny faults about a show. Granted it wasnt the best of the new dr who series but to pick faults with it like what the lighting was like or the special effects. Hell its beats watching any reality tv and even thou it wasnt perfect it was a damn right more intresting to watch than most of the other things on xmas day. And there must be something good about the new dr who series as it wouldnt of got 9 million viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Now this does amuse me' date=' why oh why when the BBC try and produce something really intresting do you get the people that dont like it pick tiny faults about a show. Granted it wasnt the best of the new dr who series but to pick faults with it like what the lighting was like or the special effects.[/quote'] Lighting is NOT a nitpick nor is it a ''small'' fault about a show, anyone with an actual clue about film and TV production will tell you lighting will either *make* or a *break* something. Lighting is absolutely essential. Special effects are important too to an extent but not as much, special effects help to get the the point across what we are watching is happening to our eyes and when I see big spaceships enter the atmosphere and not cause massive winds and blow people off buildings yet shatter windows it comes across as rather cheap. Sound engineering/production and mastering is also essential, and many of the people I know in real life who do not not anything of the technical aspects of sound production could tell it was awfull too, one even said they had to turn there TV up to hear the dialouge, so that says something for the ameteurs that produced it. Good to know these huge faults that stick out like sore thumbs didnt stop YOUR enjoyment, but they did for mine but that doesnt lessen my opinion just because YOU dont see the huge errors I do. I'm glad you got amusement from my opinions, I certainly laughed out loud at your reply. :) Hell its beats watching any reality tv and even thou it wasnt perfect it was a damn right more intresting to watch than most of the other things on xmas day. I wouldnt call badly produced TV with completelly unoriginal, predictable and contrived storylines "interesting" at all myself. And if reality TV is the only competition thats not really saying much, filming a plastic bag for several hours is more interesting and original than reality TV. But again, thats just my opinion. Each to there own. I dont know what else was on TV christmas day though as I was doing other things personally. And there must be something good about the new dr who series as it wouldnt of got 9 million viewers. Yes, because popularity = good, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 And there must be something good about the new dr who series as it wouldnt of got 9 million viewers. Whether it's good or not, if it isn't popular it won't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mateya Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 so in this case being popular is a good thing.. and is not all bad, for exapmple I like the look of a new tardis better - if it looks more organic shaped, its more "alive" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I would like to put in a word for the closing theme of the Christmas Invasion. Now that I have had the chance to hear it without all the background noise' date=' I really like it. It's too bad they didn't let it play.[/quote'] If I remember correctly from a few posts here and there, the Christmas Invasion end theme, performed by the BBC Wales Orchestra will be the opening theme for Dr. Who 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Enigma Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I thought this episode was pretty good.The only thing I didn't like was those cheesy santas. They really didn't have anything to do with the story.It's like RTD just added them so they could call it a Christmas special. I wish Christopher Eccleston didn't leave the show , but David Tennant seems to be a good replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I would like to put in a word for the closing theme of the Christmas Invasion. Now that I have had the chance to hear it without all the background noise' date=' I really like it. It's too bad they didn't let it play.[/quote'] If I remember correctly from a few posts here and there, the Christmas Invasion end theme, performed by the BBC Wales Orchestra will be the opening theme for Dr. Who 2006. Anyone got an mp3 or wav of the theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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