New Star Trek Series Idea's

[Marcroft]

ok so this is a duplicate posting of one that I posted on "New Star Trek film... the Scoop " thread, but also expands upon one that I posted a little while back.

 

I thought I would post here again - if anyone wishes to hear my idea's or would like to share your own, then feel free to post here.

 

cheers

 

Wayne

 

 

[Marcroft]

I once had three Idea's floating about in my head about a new Series.

 

One was Star Trek Excelsior - about the adventures of Captain Sulu and the crew of the U.S.S. Excelsior - with the pilot being a tie in with Star Trek VI - expanding upon the events of the film and from the Excelsior's viewpoint, and then having the ship exploring the Beta Quadrant - with more Romulan and Klingon involvement then space anomalies.

 

The second idea that I developed more was Star Trek Nemesis (yes same name) but I developed that idea when I was 14 and had broken my knee cap. That idea revolved around the U.S.S. Valiant, a war ship. I even sent the script off to Paramount. The pilot also used the original U.S.S. Defiant as a plot opening device. It was set in the year 2405 - the Valiant being one of only four dedicated Warships built by the Federation. Lets just say I have a 270 episode arc planned out for that one that could span 9 seasons, and had semi interesting sub stories that also explained the Borg over a series of two parters, each season having a Borg two parter. Might see if I can develop the series into a book.

 

The third idea I had, was Star Trek Battlelines. Not about one specific ship, but about explaining some of the events that have happened through out the series from different crew's perspective. Not all the stories would be on a Starship, and not all season would be on the same ship. They would span across several crews, changing effectively each time the crew died. This would not only explain some Trek lore, but also provide an interesting spin. I was thinking of having it set in the 24th Century, but not jumping straight into the Battle of Worf 359. I was thinking of explaining some of the situations that Miles O'Brien had talked about - with regards to the battles with the Cardassian's.

 

Worf 359 wouldn't be reached until about season 3 (a little tribute) and then the stories would probably be not only FX laden, but would also explain and place you in the midst of scenario's. Not all the crew's would be killed, but there wouldn't be many survivors.

 

That would then lead nicely into DS9's Dominion War - which considering what was happening (and being a huge fan of DS9) you really didn't see that much off. Taking not only scenarios like the Siege of AR 558, but also the huge space battles seen in season 6+7 and maybe that three month period not seen in Season 6.

 

I didn't really have Battlelines as developed as Nemesis, but I might develop that when bored.

 

The point that I was also going to make is that if that idea (Nemesis) was to be picked up (hahaha) that I would have had the pilot begin as a movie, and then take the rest of the series from that Pilot. The sets would be inherited, and you would have more of them. The sets would be far better built due to budgets (as well as props and costumes) it just lends itself better from starting with a film and continuing in a series.

 

 

[Marcroft]

With regards to the "Valiant being one of only four dedicated Warships" I am refering to Class, as opposed to quantity.

 

The design would have revolved around one submitted as an early Defiant concept (which was of course at first going to be called Valant), designed by Jim Martin

 

see http://www.starshipdatalink.net/

 

 

 

The size of the ship would have been greatly increased then that shown above

[TFMF]

Great ship design!

 

and your ideas are great - that 3rd idea in paticular - i like that one - how we get the war prospective from different crews - that's great! having these crews die would also increse the drama and emotion of the crews which i think the previous series's lacked...and explaining some of these battles we keep hearing about would be great too and maybe seeing more of what we saw in "Nor the Battle Strong" (DS9 Season 4) - troops on the ground fighting and that kind of thing...and i REALLY like how we go through the battles - Wolf 359 in Season 3 - the Dominion war later on - and perhaps these survivers could meet up at some kind of memorial at the end....well anyway - GREAT ideas!!!!! :D

 

 

[Marcroft]

Hiya

 

Thanks for commenting on some of my ideas.

 

With regards to the Valiant - one of my favourite designs I have ever seen, that hasn't been used - which is a shame I think as that design has so much potential. I don’t think that the front or top views in the picture are accurate to the overall design, and I would prefer to see it slightly re-worked, but that ship looks great.

 

As a rough idea of scale, I was considering making the Valiant bigger then a Galaxy Class, as I wanted to have an internal docking bay that could hold four - six Defiant Class vessels. So where you can see the bridge arrow - that would roughly be the size of the saucer section of a Galaxy Class - the entrance to the dock would be similar to the Defiant's - through the underside.

 

As for my Battlelines idea - think I might work on developing that a little more, and flesh it out a bit better, but that is one concept that I have been toying with for some time. It would be good to have one maybe two ships that survive the entire arc - but overal most wouldn't. It would be a show about the trials and conditions that someone faces. Not all of it will be hopeful, as that obviously is not what happens in either a real war or a fire fight. But it would show the human condition under pressure, and show the battles that took place.

 

Ultimately I would like to expand upon more of what wasn't shown. The skirmishes with the Klingons after their occupation of Cardassian territory and the battles with the Federation as the Klingons expand their influence. The events through out the Dominion War because there just wasn't enough shown in DS9 (understandably).

 

One of the ones that I would really like to plan out well would be the battle at Worf 359. One thing that I would never do though is write in The Next Generation in any different way. At best I would work in what happens in the Best of Both Worlds (TNG) - and what was seen in the beginning of Emissary (DS9). I would also like to write in how the events by one crew could relate to another - possibly interact between events across the crew's even though we might not know them for long. From organising attacks, to picking up survivors, to suicide attacks?

 

I would also like to include events around the Maquis too - as they were never really explained very well. They just didn't seem too much of a threat and with the exception of Eddington - you could never really sympathise with what they was going through. It would be a good means to flesh out the Maquis and eventually tie in to a Dominion arc too.

 

Anyway - I will start fleshing out a few idea's - and post them here once I have something a little more solid??

 

As for my Nemesis idea - I will continue to work on that too - as it still remains close to me.

 

[Herbalzor]

the third option would be to exspensive

 

id like to see somthing made about another race personally

[usslacker]

I would like to see something post dominion war like the rebuilding of cardassia. And to see if the breen really complies with the surrender. I liked DS9 the most out of the seres cause it was a fresh perspective. Don't get me wrong i still like the others to.

[Wazer]

The third option sound Ok but it needs something to link episodes , say a core group of characters.

It would also need some link stories so that they are not always in battles and the story arc doesn't become too depressing like BattleStar Galactic is. This is Star Trek it should be positive ( at least occasionally) ;)

[Marcroft]

The Battlelines idea though I would be trying to stay away from what has come before, and think that the events are enough to link as opposed to having the same crew through out. To truly understand an event you have to see it through as many eyes as possible.

 

Anyway just an idea - as regards to it being too expensive - its not like it will ever be made or put into production as a series, but its sure something that I can write about and flesh out.

 

As regards to the New Battlestar Galactica - I think you may have missed the point and purpose of the show if you think its depressing. Its darker then most and gritty, but I wouldn't say its depressing.

 

[bbbb]

I really think the people making TV series should move away from so many arcs and to be continued episodes. I'm sure that hurt Enterprise in season 4, having far too many "mini-arcs". With the exception of the mirror two-parter (the best of the season, if not the series) most of the arcs in season 4 were drawn out and got pretty BORING after the first episode. I liked seeing Dr. Lucas finally but I wish it had been in a better plot. There was far too much violence in ENT and DS9. Star Trek is about exploration, not violence. Star Wars, now there's a good outlet for action and violence, gotta love the ESB duel and the Battle of Hoth.

[Guest c4evap]

New Star Trek Series Idea's

 

MIRROR UNIVERSE! :cyclops: It's not a new idea but I'd love to see a series/movie based on the idea.

 

c4 B)

[bathori]

well, I think the exploration must go on, but I-d like to see how the human race evolves a bit..... In which direction...hm. good question... I'd like to see the new series begining, where Voyager ended his journey. Q is still out there, right? :p. All we need is a new enemy.... and a DAMN GOOD PLOT, not the obvious ones.... And the crew.... It is always an asian, an afro-american, somtimes a native american...

I haven't seen an eskimos yet... so.... it might work...

What would do the human race after Voyager returned... THIS IS MY QUESTION! B)

 

[mateya]

after voyager - thats a lot of fixing/updateing to do with all this new technology from admiral jayneway.. but I like the valiant and battlelines stories also.

hmm, anything of the above would do right now :)

[Marcroft]

The Nemesis idea (Valiant) I had set in 2405 - and would feature some of the upgrades that would have been developed from the technology acquired from Admiral Janeway.

 

Battlelines could span over a few decades potentially, since the shift would be event based as opposed to linear progression. So you could potentially see new ship classes relating to the period that you were in. So spanning say from 2340 - 2370's?

 

As for the mirror episode in Season 4 of Enterprise - In a Mirror, Darkly - it was an interesting idea, and I liked it generally, but compared to the other mirror episodes done previously, it just didn't live up to standards.

Likewise the CGI Gorn - very dodgy - for some reasons a few of the CGI scenes for Enterprise didn't look all too good, most did but some didn't. Also I still think that Scott Bakula's acting was very dodgy in that episode. He just can’t do angry or mean. The scene of him in the Defiant's Captains quarters with Hoshi "great men aren't explorers, great men are conquerors" - truly made me cringe. It reminds me in many ways of the of "The Emperor's New Cloak" ST: DS9-S7 - it just was a bit of a let down.

 

[Guest c4evap]

As for the mirror episode in Season 4 of Enterprise - In a Mirror, Darkly - it was an interesting idea, and I liked it generally, but compared to the other mirror episodes done previously, it just didn't live up to standards.

Likewise the CGI Gorn - very dodgy - for some reasons a few of the CGI scenes for Enterprise didn't look all too good, most did but some didn't. Also I still think that Scott Bakula's acting was very dodgy in that episode. He just can't do angry or mean. The scene of him in the Defiant's Captains quarters with Hoshi "great men aren't explorers, great men are conquerors" - truly made me cringe. It reminds me in many ways of the of "The Emperor's New Cloak" ST: DS9-S7 - it just was a bit of a let down.

 

I disagree...(For me) it certainly lived up to standards (for the most part). I do agree the Gorn could have been done much better and I always said Scott Bakula was the wrong choice for Enterprise. The let down for me? No part 3!

 

c4 B)

[superman9595]

How About a Star Trek comedy series. They can make something like

 

"Everybody Loves Quark"

 

 

[mateya]

or a brodway musical? eww! :)

[Bapman]

Ok... Here's 1 That I just came up with. It's old concept I kept repeating in the other thread. BUT I'll repeat again. It's regarding the TIME ENFORCERS... or like 1 ENFORCER.

 

Season 1

Start off with the creation of the time police near the 27th or 28th Century. Wesley Crusher will be the 1 responsible... and ergo doing that... finally proves to be of SOME worth. The high council of the devision is not only the Federation command BUT... 3 specialist travellers. Oh and around this era... Dominion...Cardassians... Romulan... Klingons and even Species 8472 are either allies or part of the Federation. Basically there are no enemies left. The Alpha and Beta Quadrant are completely explored and basically its a peaceful time.

The series starts off with the hero going on few crime hunts across time... through some known important events we have seen already. Like the coming of the Borgs... he had to made sure the Borgs would come... or else by the time Federation had its 1st encounter with them would be during VOYAGER... who gets assimilated... n the BORGS attack during the Dominion war... n the Federation n Dominion loses. Basically u get the idea. In the aftermath or each mission or episode there would be some minute changes in the time lines that he or anyone doesn't notice.

By the end of the mid season finale... there'll be a big mission and when he returns... he's in the 29th century... and its completely changed. Humans aren't space explorers... none of the major races are. He realises something must've happend in the past that 'cause for all this to happen. The rest of the season would involve him trying to find the cause n fix it n by the season finale when he returns... every major civilization is wiped out.

 

Season 2

Discovery of the Krenim Imperium. They are the ones responsible. So he contacts the travellers n finds out that the Travellers are getting hunted by the imperium. Somehow the Krenim know about the travellers... and not only that they know their weaknesses. Which implies... betrayal by 1 of the Agents. But WHY !? He goes to find other agents like him who withstood the time change.

Mid-season finale has the VOY n Krenim incident. He goes n tries to stop the Krenim from changing the time line by destroying VOY. He fails... and VOY is destroyed.

By the season finale he has a showdown with the other agents who thinks he is the main bad guy.

 

Season 3

He ends up killing most of the agents and the rest get killed by the Krenim so that means... either the traitor is dead or he's with the Krenim. He decides to go on the offencive by learning about temporal weapons and going after the Krenim in the past. He contacts 1 other enemy who can time travel. The BORGS.

the Queen tries to assimilate him but fails. He tells her why n how. The BORGS... while way more powerful than before... have less territory. He tells her how without the Krenim they could spread and by the 25th Century... conquered the entire Delta Quadrant.

By mid season finale... he starts an all out war between the BORGS and the Krenim. He helps the Borg assimilate the Krenim main temporal weapon. When both sides start fighting using that all hell on time breaks loose. He is immune it 'cause he's got high level traveller tech to protect him from all the time shifts and he did this 'cause right now there are sooo many time modifications that he'll actually be locate the focal point of it all through the changes... and he does.

By the season finale he jumps through all those times to get there to find who is the real villain.

 

Season 4

The focal point... originates... from the Mirror Universe... and gues who the main villain is. Himself on the other side. Te other him is also a time enforcer agent who found out that their Terran Empire crumbled 'cause of the Feds. Plus since he worked with the Travellers in te alternate dimension... he knew how to beat the Travellers in this dimension. He gave these knowledge to the Krenim. All these charade 'cause the Krenims don't know that they r gonna get wiped out using the Time Arrow tech so... by the end of it all. There won't be any Feds or ANY major races in this dimension... the Terran Empire wopuld be back in full power and they would control BOTH the universes.

n I have NO idea where to go from there... except that it ends with both of them dying. Things coming back to normal somewhat. The Terran Empire is there more powerful than ever but... they haven't MET the BORGS... who are on their way.

In the normal Dimension the BORGS didn't go back to normal 'cause of the time tech. They are more advanced than ever.

 

Whewww. Feel free to comment or add or well... anything.

[Marcroft]

Reminds me of Gary Seven a little bit from Assignment Earth ST: TOS.

 

Do you have any of the seasons fleshed out in a little bit more detail?

 

How can Wesley Crusher be responsible for the creation of the Enforcers - in what century does that happen?

 

If you have the Enforcers- whose role I assume would be to protect and monitor the timeline - how would they not notice the slight changes made?

 

With regards to the Krenim - in the events shown in the year of hell, its lead to assume that the time ship was never created, or that in fact it's likely that this was the only breakthrough made in temporal technology by the Krenim Imperium.

 

Re the Mirror universe - and the mirror him, how does he have access to time travelling equipment?

Have you developed a back story that relates to the Terran Rebellion from ST: DS9 - and the rebuilding of the Terran Empire?

 

Are you able to expand a little more on your ideas as it would be interesting to hear.

 

[Bapman]

Errr.... in all honesty... :)

I just came up with them as I typed. :p.

That's why its feels half-a$$ed and incomplete.

Besides... I dont like doing stuff by myself... I put it so that some of you can come up with stuff to add anf flesh it out. Would be interesting everyone's good ideas would get in.