netshark Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hi there, I havent seen much episodes of tng yet, but I know Voyager quite good and the movies as well, of course. Lately I just wondered why the hell people on Enterprise E have a purple dress while the guys on Voyager do have different Uniforms. So the people on Enterprise have these colorful dresses as underwear, but why? Is it so cold on the Enterprise? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 its time line thing voyager left before the new style of uniforms where introduced so they can't really change them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Because it's not uncommon for Uniforms to change over time? TNG started with the spandex, moved to the black shoulders and colours on the torso. Which was then reversed for DS9/VOY. Then they invert it again by changing the colours on the shoulders for the colours of the tunic. One can only assume that Starfleet likes to keep in tune with fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netshark Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 hmm yeah, these purple dresses look better than the ones from voyager..obviously an additional attempt to make new movies and series look quite new as well. And what do the colors exactly stand for? The green color is for medicals and doctors I assume, but the rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Red - Command Gold - Engineering Green - Science/medicine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Gold - Engineering/Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 It's worth stating that for reasons never explained - between TOS and TNG they change around Red and Gold. Hence Kirk wearing gold in TOS and Scotty wearing red. As I recall, the piping in ENT follows that too, which would make sense... but then to be honest a bunch of people came to my house in ENT outfits I'd think they were going to paint and decorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfoster Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 but then to be honest a bunch of people came to my house in ENT outfits I'd think they were going to paint and decorate. Not a fan of the jump-suit style uniforms then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfoster Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Red - Command Gold - Engineering Green - Science/medicine It's not green, it's blue -see the uniforms in TOS and Dr Crusher's Uniforms -clearly blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenhank Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 It became more of a teal as time went on. The Doctor's uniform was essentially green, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfoster Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 It did get greener as time went on, but the Doctor's uniform is definitely bluey-green. The lighting in Voyager's sick bay isn't the best (to make Surgery all the easier!), but watch him when he's in his little office, it's a much clearer blue colour. Either that or you're TV's giving out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netshark Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 green blue But Ensign Kim for example has a gold dress and isnt engineering/security, so this is the dress for anyone else than command/medic !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Purple? You mean the grey/purple-ish suits near the end of ds9? Bashir as medical had a very light blue color, and i think dax had that too, or was that green-ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenhank Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 See, now we get to the problem of "what color is the sun?". Most people, while assuming they have the same concept of colors as everyone else, do not have the same concept of colors as everyone else. The effect of this is: we both see the same color (in this case, the Doctor's uniform) - and no, we are not seeing it differently; we are both seeing the exact same color - and while you see blue, I see green. It's just a difference in where on the spectrum your brain has placed the cutoff for blue/green, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netshark Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Thats why I posted this comparison - it is quite obvious in my eyes, that these are different colors of a uniform belonging to the same person. The only plausible cause of that is imo the different lightsurroundings in these scenes...or did they wash the doctors dress too hot by mistake? ;> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfoster Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I still think that it's blue, as the two pictures above show. The lower picture, with the better lighting clearly shows blue. Either that, or maybe the doctor changed his appearance matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazer Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 netshark if you go to this site http://www.ccdump.org/uniforms.html there are some pretty good examples of the uniforms from Enterprise to the current uniforms (first seen in First Contact) and even the 29th century. The blue of the medical uniform is definately a blue the same colour is worn by dax, crusher, the doctor (voyager) and even ensign wildman so we get plent of chance to se it in all lighting conditions. By the way there is also another thread on uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Did the doctor really have a greenish uniform early in the series? That could have simply been a TV picture thing, you know they got the colours wrong on a number of TV shows. That wasn't a problem of the studio but of the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 To be honest, I think it's somewhere between blue and green - kind of a turquoise. So really it just depends on the lighting or tv you're watching it on or your ability to perceive colour or any number of other small factors. But of all the pointless sci-fi arguments I've seen... this is the most recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyperion Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 It's worth stating that for reasons never explained - between TOS and TNG they change around Red and Gold. Hence Kirk wearing gold in TOS and Scotty wearing red. As I recall' date=' the piping in ENT follows that too, which would make sense... but then to be honest a bunch of people came to my house in ENT outfits I'd think they were going to paint and decorate.[/quote']Watch the movies. After Kirk's first five-year term is up they moved to this complete white/blue/goldy jumpsuit (Star Trek Motion Picture) thing then switched to a full red uniform (Star Trek 2 to 6). This new red suit lasted until at least 2344 (TNG - Yesterday's Enterprise) but before 2366 (Ent-D launch year) when they revised it again and returned to the old three-color system. Whomever was in chrage of the redesign chose to keep Command Red and bring back Gold for Engineering and Security while keeping Blue for Sciences. The TNG switch was between 7 (which has Geordi in a DS9/VOY outfit for the latter half of the movie) and 8 (circa 2373) and was probably a shift in their focus from peaceful to war-like. They were fighting the Dominion so I guess having brightly-colored jumpsuits was a dead giveaway so they needed less standout uniforms revealing the dull purple/grey with colored undershirt. Voyager was lost to the alpha quadrant as of 2371 when they were still in bright-colors and as they weren't fighting the Dominion Janeway must've decided that it would be a waste to replicate a new set of uniforms. In the 10th movie we see Admiral Janeway wearing the purple/grey version. The third color is blue in TOS but it is Turquoise in TNG-DS9-VOY. I actually got to ask one of the costume designers at a con and he said it was Turquoise (but they still called it blue amongst the production team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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