pkrisnin Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I like Season 4, the stories seem to be more toward how the Federation was formed. That's what I wanted in the first place but now their are going to cancel it.:( The timeline story from Season 1-3 was crap. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 The timeline storie from Season 1-3 was crap. Of course it was...... 1. Klingons on Earth? Never happened....... 2. Borg on Earth? Never happened....... 3. Earth attacked? Never happened......... 4. Suliban? Kirk didn't know them........ 5. Xindi? Kirk didn't know them.......... :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Of course it was...... 1. Klingons on Earth? Never happened....... 2. Borg on Earth? Never happened....... 3. Earth attacked? Never happened......... 4. Suliban? Kirk didn't know them........ 5. Xindi? Kirk didn't know them.......... :stare: Is this evidece that Braga is full of sh**? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrisnin Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Not only Braga, from what I'm reading we have Rick Berman too thank for Season 1-3. " Enterprise was also the first Trek series not to accept unsolicited scripts" What kind of idot would discount other people's idea without even reading them. They should be put through 20 Klingon pain sticks. I hope they choose me to 1 of the 20, I'll do it for free. For some good reading. http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/584/584884p1.html http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/585/585432p1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedrus Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 An other problem whit the series is the ship. many have said it lokks to good when you compare it to the ships in TOS. I dont thin the series is bad, but something is missing...... TOS was made when my father was 6 years old.. if Enterprise didn't have a better looking ship I would physically beat the computer modellers who work on the series. For ST to continue, alot of things must happen... first off.. axe rick berman.. the article in the post before For some good reading. http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/584/584884p1.html http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/585/585432p1.html confirms this with DS9 running without him in the last couple of seasons.. Secondly.. they should change their policy of not recieving fan scripts.. It was a good idea back in the days of Gene Roddenbury.. but now the writers need all the help they can get (excluding season 4 of ENT).. Third... it would help if someone would blow up UPN Fourth... They need a new cast.. a fresh cast.. before ST:TNG i had never seen gates mcfadden.. Jonathan frakes.. marina sirtis.. i recognize Levar Burton from the reading rainbow shows they forced us to watch in elementary school.. but yea.. also.. I've read alot of people saying that some of these races weren't in TOS.. I can understand that when it comes to the Xindi about to destroy the planet.. but if every race would have to be put in TOS which lasted 3 seasons.. that'd have to be like 3 full episodes of them just stating races.. just my opinion.. feel free to flame me.. --------- Edit : Got William Riker and Jonathan Frakes mixed up.. hahahaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Is this evidece that Braga is full of sh**? .......And Bermann as well. They had no clue how to do a prequil, apparently. But instead of admitting that & turning the reigns over to someone who did, they botched the whole thing from get go. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 i had never seen gates mcfadden.. william frakes.. I think you mean Jonathan Frakes! :cyclops: If Trek is to continue, Bermann & Braga (the Bumblebees) must go.......It's as simple as that. I've read alot of people saying that some of these races weren't in TOS.. I can understand that when it comes to the Xindi about to destroy the planet.. but if every race would have to be put in TOS which lasted 3 seasons.. that'd have to be like 3 full episodes of them just stating races.. You're missing my point. ST:TOS had many races. to find the origins of these races would've taken at least 3 seasons, if not more. ......In other words, it is possible to have ENT last 10 seasons, maybe even longer, so why is ENT getting the axe? :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesize Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Cancellation of a show has nothing to do with "limitation of ideas" futuristic crap...thats a load of bull... it all about RATINGS.... the show only air s on UPN, ummm satellite, and how many people have satellite tv...ITS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE as to the households that don't I do not have satellite, but a friend did, i'd always watch it, now i can only watch it off the net through torrents. So fans do not nessecarily have access to watch it, Paramount is probably the biggest REtarded Company, Star Trek made them a fortune, If Paramount really wanted it to succeed they would have arranged it to be aired on a more public domain. Lets hope it gets picked up by another company, very sad day, Enterprise explains a lot that was missing in the Star Trek world, They can do so much more, The gap is still huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackemback Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Surely none of this news has come as a shock the rumours surrounding the cancellation of enterprise have been around for ages. The problem has always been with the time it was being aired....Friday night....who the hell stays in on a Friday night of course the view ratings were low & this of course is what the sponsors look at they want people to view their ads so it wont matter what they put on in enterprise´s place thats sure to get moved or axed as well due to low viewer ratings.....surely it might have been a more sensible idea to move the day it was aired & then see if the viewing increased just go´s to prove they dont give a shit about fans just dollars I for one think that all Trek fans should boycott paramount products lets see what a few million drops in sales would do ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Actually, it's "all of the above"........ Poor ratings (thanks to Nielson), non-canon stuff, bad ideas, keeping Bermann & Braga on the payroll, leaving the show on UPN, moving the show to Fridays, and many other things. But......The one thing all the above have in common is Paramount. They were in charge. They knew what they were doing. If someone wants to start a boycott of all Paramount products, I will sign it. :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Enterprise is about the beginning of Earth's voyages into deep space and meeting new cultures, not to explain how TOS works and how all its alien races were discovered. If all of ENT was just a Trek history book it would be pretty boring, why not just read a book? Enterprise is much more than that. It shows what humans did to get out there and how they interacted with the first alien species seen by mankind. How did these little humans fare against the depths of space? Enterprise shows us that humans were once the little duck in the very big pond. As shown in TOS and TNG humans became the big ducks in the big pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffydk Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 When exactly was Enterprise moved to Fridays? Which moron decided to put a show that gets millions of viewers on fridays? Most people, even trek fans, go out on fridays. They couldnt have expected ratings to go higher by moving it to fridays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 When exactly was Enterprise moved to Fridays? I think it was at the end of the first or second season...... :thinking: Which moron decided to put a show that gets millions of viewers on fridays? Dawn Ostroff......The one that's now shedding big crocodile tears at ENT's passing. :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Enterprise is about the beginning of Earth's voyages into deep space and meeting new cultures' date=' not to explain how TOS works and how all its alien races were discovered. If all of ENT was just a Trek history book it would be pretty boring, why not just read a book?[/quote'] BBBB, nothing I do is boring.......I can assure you of that! LOL! :) Had I any say in the matter, it'd have been done right, and you've been at the edge of your seat. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 At least they have more breathing room to bring Kirk back now. That would have been so strange to have Kirk walking on the NX-01 and helping Archer build the Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 At least they have more breathing room to bring Kirk back now. That would have been so strange to have Kirk walking on the NX-01 and helping Archer build the Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 You CAN'T just BRING Kirk back for the hell of it, Kirk was born in 2233, Enterprise takes place in 2151-55 or so right? Even if you were going to fast forward 80 years it wouldn't matter, the Enterprise class starship was COMPLETELY retired from service in 2223, 10 yrs before he was even born. get yo timelines right ;) B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 You CAN'T just BRING Kirk back for the hell of it' date=' Kirk was born in [b']2233[/b], Enterprise takes place in 2151-55 or so right? Even if you were going to fast forward 80 years it wouldn't matter, the Enterprise class starship was COMPLETELY retired from service in 2223, 10 yrs before he was even born. get yo timelines right ;) B) Correct. ENT is years before Kirk, ergo not too many species to meet, other than ones we'd see later in TOS. :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 when i said that the nx-01 looks better than the TOS Enterprise; I did not mean the cgi models. My point was that the ships look too advanced, having in mind the TOS Enterprise is made after the NX-01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel82 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 The timeline storie from Season 1-3 was crap. Of course it was...... 1. Klingons on Earth? Never happened....... 2. Borg on Earth? Never happened....... 3. Earth attacked? Never happened......... 4. Suliban? Kirk didn't know them........ 5. Xindi? Kirk didn't know them.......... :stare: i really liked the 3rd season, though the whole xindi thing had not very much in common with former star trek history. but it had a lot of tension, and thats what is important to me when i look tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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