Megalith Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 There must be millions and millions of downloaders out there. Should we really worry all that much? c4 :thinking: Yeah exactly so many paranoid people thinkin ooooh theyre out to get me.... now psychoanalysts have a phrase for this its called Delusions of Grandeur which means believing you are so important that some high powered organisation is out to get you. Delusions of Grandeur is in itself enough to be labelled by the psychiatric proffession as Schizophrenic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 just because I'm paranoid doesn't meant they aren't out to get ME.... or YOU for something that shouldn't be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 lol borg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I use utorrent with protocol encryption (PE) this means they have no idea what it is that is being transcieved by my pc' date=' i hear peer guardian not only slows ya pc but also reduces the number of DHT nodes. PE is enough by itself i also use Hamachi (a VPN) to send files to my friends,chat and play games it also has PE. if you use hamachi message me. Sorry that\'s just not correct! PE was not designed as a anonymizer in fact it uses a very low form of encryption by todays standards, if that encrption was increased the download/upload speeds would decrease. Therefore PE is not going to keep you safe, it may help a little but in no way should you feel 100% secure with this. I suggest using peer guardian also, that\'s what i have been using and have never recieved a takedown notice. You can also use a pay service like FindNot and use one of there offshore servers. Regular proxies that you pull off a list cant be trusted. If you accidently have a socks 5 enabled and you forget about this and innocently check your Bank account you could be phished very easily. BitTorrent traffic makes up a large portion of total internet traffic. Some ISPs deal with it by increasing their capacity. Other ISPs use specialised hardware to throttle, or slow down BitTorrent traffic. Encryption makes BitTorrent traffic harder to detect and therefore harder to throttle. It is not designed to provide anonymity. Here's a link explaining PE http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7DTXmIr1vrAJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_header_encrypt+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 here's an interesting response from a BBC correspondent. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4758636.stm I am totally behind PE an hoping they can increase the encryption value higher then what it currently is without serious drawbacks. The really really good thing about PE is that it helps nullify ISP throttling and at the same time makes the cyberspies jobs that much harder which is certainly a good thing. But it is still possible to retrieve your ip address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 There must be millions and millions of downloaders out there. Should we really worry all that much? c4 :thinking: Yeah exactly so many paranoid people thinkin ooooh theyre out to get me.... now psychoanalysts have a phrase for this its called Delusions of Grandeur which means believing you are so important that some high powered organisation is out to get you. Delusions of Grandeur is in itself enough to be labelled by the psychiatric proffession as Schizophrenic. I thought Delusions of Grandeur was when you thought you were Napoleon or Batman or Tinkerbell...etc... c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I thought Delusions of Grandeur was when you thought you were Napoleon or Batman or Tinkerbell...etc... Delusions of Grandeur is when you think that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are. It is a common trait in people suffering from paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Self importance has nothing to do with it. The fact is there is a "high powered organization" out to get us there called the MPAA and when they finish making the rounds against the tracker sites. Fully expect them to begin attacking individuals=that means US the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The RIAA is currently engaged in prosecuting individual uploaders. I imagine the MPAA might go for that as the RIAA is enjoying a FAR lower profile by quietly pressuring people into thousand dollar settlements. Esentially the MPAA is doing what the RIAA did to start out with - going after the big boys in large and rather public cases that draw a lot of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 The MPAA isn't drawing all that much attention in the wider general press (daily national newspapers etc) at the moment, I wouldn't say (although I doubt it'll stay that way), but you're right, the RIAA has taken, what is for them, the better course of action as far as the organisational image and reputation are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Well when/if the MPAA start looking for 'the little people' they will obtain trasfer rates from the ISP's and the only form of protection you could use to stop them busting you is to not download anything. Until such a day i will not be going about being parnoid that the men in black are specially waiting to get there hands on lil ol' me's computer... i for one am a minor insignificant little statistic in there corporate machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Well when/if the MPAA start looking for 'the little people' they will obtain trasfer rates from the ISP's and the only form of protection you could use to stop them busting you is to not download anything. Until such a day i will not be going about being parnoid that the men in black are specially waiting to get there hands on lil ol' me's computer... i for one am a minor insignificant little statistic in there corporate machine. Exactly and we'll have plenty of warning when they start attacking individuals. There's so many people downloading now that the chances are slim that one of us will be in the first lawsuits. Once this happens everyone can decide for themselves if they want to pay for a newsgroup or a service like findnot/pay proxy. Essentially any campaign against individuals wont work. Just like cockroaches, when the mpaa flips on the lights we'll just scramble under the baseboards and pop up somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldorado Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I use peerguardian, adaware.spybot,spyware doctor, and Frostwire-instead of limewire(no sharing to authorities) although some bitorrents are still used- I'm considering nextag-altthough i hear bad things about them ratting you out as well. Soom I'll be moving to Panama or Venualza so it wont be a problem any longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/f/torrentscramble.htm I found this the other day does anyone know how Tor proxy thingy works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldorado Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Proxy's hide your IP addy by routing you thru several different servers in various countries-as far as I knowI'cve tried themn and dont lkike them for downloading--although they are Ok for surfing. You may also try Hide IP platium (only for IE Browser). here's where to get it free-not sure if links are still good! Download http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/download/hideippla.exe Fix: http://softex.meganet.lt/FIX/02.vas-3/HideIP.Platinum.rar http://rapidshare.de/files/14109611/HideIP.Platinum.rar password: www.2baksa.net The problem with P2P and proxies are that they usually slow down your speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Proxy's hide your IP addy by routing you thru several different servers in various countries-as far as I knowI'cve tried themn and dont lkike them for downloading--although they are Ok for surfing. You may also try Hide IP platium (only for IE Browser). here's where to get it free-not sure if links are still good! Download http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/download/hideippla.exe Fix: http://softex.meganet.lt/FIX/02.vas-3/HideIP.Platinum.rar http://rapidshare.de/files/14109611/HideIP.Platinum.rar password: www.2baksa.net The problem with P2P and proxies are that they usually slow down your speed I know how proxies work! This Tor system is different since it uses a chain id like to hear from someone who actually uses it? I suspect the downloads are rather slow. Right now i have never had issues with my isp but like the idea of 80% better anonymity using TOR then just peer guardian because let's face it Media Sentry Bay TSP and the rest of them swap there ip like crazy so its not very effective imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldorado Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Proxy's hide your IP addy by routing you thru several different servers in various countries-as far as I knowI'cve tried themn and dont lkike them for downloading--although they are Ok for surfing. You may also try Hide IP platium (only for IE Browser). here's where to get it free-not sure if links are still good! Download http://www.hide-ip-soft.com/download/hideippla.exe Fix: http://softex.meganet.lt/FIX/02.vas-3/HideIP.Platinum.rar http://rapidshare.de/files/14109611/HideIP.Platinum.rar password: www.2baksa.net The problem with P2P and proxies are that they usually slow down your speed I know how proxies work! This Tor system is different since it uses a chain id like to hear from someone who actually uses it? I suspect the downloads are rather slow. Right now i have never had issues with my isp but like the idea of 80% better anonymity using TOR then just peer guardian because let's face it Media Sentry Bay TSP and the rest of them swap there ip like crazy so its not very effective imho. Well, try it and let us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I use a battery of 2 megaton mini nuclear ICBMs. ... oh, wait... bittorrent! Ahem... <_<... >_>... yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 If anyone knows any good anonymising programs - for general interneting - do say what they are. I'm getting rather paranoid in my old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paniq Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I use Newsgroups - practically untraceable unless either you look at the premium newsserver logs (MP@@ don't have the b@lls to try that) or the ISP - but they'd have to know who I am to get that info they can't just ask to monitor without proof. I actually use protowall for t*rrents with utorrent (mutorrent??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I thought that they had proven to be rather unscrupulous in their methods of detection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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