Star Trek is the future of Stargate.

[Mindwalker]

Me and a friend have had long discussions about why Star Trek is the future for Dr. Jackson and the others.

 

Can anyone guess where we began the discussion? Where we both agreed that it had to be true?

Might not stand up to canon, but it sure as hell is a funny thinking-game.

 

These are my points.

 

1. Stargates. Captain Sisko has to stop some Jem'Hadar from getting to a stargate which sounds like it works pretty much like in SG1. The Iconian Gateways are mentioned several times throughout Star Trek.

 

2. The klingons killed their gods several millennia ago. This coincides with several revolts against the Goa'uld. In Klingon religion, the original gods who created the first Klingons were slain by their own creations, because they were "more trouble than they were worth". Sounds like Goa'uld to me.

 

3. Tokra symbiotes take Trill as new hosts in the future. I bet Dax (DS9) and Selmak (SG1) could have been good friends. The goa'uld/trill symbiote are both kept in the same kind of 'tubs of goo'.

 

4. The goa'uld queen-thingamajigg and the parasite in TNG: Conspiracy.

 

5. The Q and the Ancients. Something surely did happen to change their "politics" towards non-ascended beings.

 

6. Since most human starships was a secret... they were lost in WW3, the Eugenics war... or they just plain ol' left the galaxy to find greener pasteures. Hell. You can throw in Battlestar Galactica (reimagened) right here. They FTL away because of the wars and create the twelve colonies in another galaxy. Or hell... just in the gamma quadrant somewhere. Or in the Delta... take your pick. Even another galaxy.

 

7. The jiggly squiggles which were put in Chekov's ear in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan could be baby Goa'uld/Trill. Infant symbiotes can't take full control of their hosts.

 

That's all I can remember right now.

Please, don't start knocking this thread. If you don't like it, don't read it.

It's a game. Nothing more.

 

[Mav]

Theres tons of similarity's. But then the sciences don't really match up.

 

If Trek is the future of the SG universe, how is it Warp speed is faster than Hyperdrives? And if Cochrane was the first man to discover faster-than-light travel via Warp, how come theres no acknowledgement of any of the 303's being able to achieve hyperspace?

 

Sure it could be within cause of the whole, "don't let the general public know" thing but I think by the time Cochrane meets Vulcans, the world clues in on alien lifeforms, and whats left of the governments would come forward and be like "yea..we met aliens decades ago"

 

And yes the Borg are a nice analogy to Replicators, you could say they "evolved" into Borg. But then again every sci fi series has it's version of an alien species or machine that duplicates itself for various means. Farscape had the metallic bugs that could camoflauge themselves as bricks of money. Sliders had those mechanical spyder things in the one reality where freedom and fortune is earned by a RunningMan-style gameshow. If it was something unique to Trek or SG then I might agree with that one analogy part but its not.

 

Good theory but it doesn't hold up really. I mean afaik the canon for Stargate started with the movie and that was released what, back in the mid 1990's? Trek started way back in the late 1960's...That would be one hell of a colobration to "relate" to series over the space of almost 50 years..

[Mindwalker]

It's not intended to be close to canon.

The warp-drive Isn't faster than hyperdrives. So the excuse there would be the loss of that particular piece of technology.

The Replicators were exterminated in this galaxy. So they couldn't have evolved.

When have you known governments for being forthcoming and honest about stuff?

Most of the governments were either in disarray or dissolved after World War 3. Who can say what they know of the SGC after all of that?

 

Let the games continue. Consider it a -game-.

[JoeDawson]

I am the aforemeantioned friend.... my comments in red.

 

Me and a friend have had long discussions about why Star Trek is the future for Dr. Jackson and the others.

 

Can anyone guess where we began the discussion? Where we both agreed that it had to be true?

Might not stand up to canon, but it sure as hell is a funny thinking-game.

 

These are my points.

 

1. Stargates. Captain Sisko has to stop some Jem'Hadar from getting to a stargate which sounds like it works pretty much like in SG1. The Iconian Gateways are mentioned several times throughout Star Trek.

 

The Iconian gateways though concieved slightly differently (you can see where you are going, etc...) are obviously either a more advanced stargate or a similar technology... there is even a DHD that picard uses!

 

 

2. The klingons killed their gods several millennia ago. This coincides with several revolts against the Goa'uld. In Klingon religion, the original gods who created the first Klingons were slain by their own creations, because they were "more trouble than they were worth". Sounds like Goa'uld to me.[/color]

 

 

Does this require any further explanation? It fits perfectly into the stargate canon.

 

 

3. Tokra symbiotes take Trill as new hosts in the future. I bet Dax (DS9) and Selmak (SG1) could have been good friends. The goa'uld/trill symbiote are both kept in the same kind of 'tubs of goo'.

 

The Tok'Ra had long been searching for a homeworld... There has never really been any backstory on Trill to go from... it is not much of a stretch to think that after the defeat of the Goa'Uld the Tok'ra settled on trill... there are very few tok'ra... and very few trill symbiotes to go around.

 

 

4. The goa'uld queen-thingamajigg and the parasite in TNG: Conspiracy.

 

Parasites that take over the host and do evil things? In 1987 this sure looks like a precursor to even the Stargate movie!

 

 

5. The Q and the Ancients. Something surely did happen to change their "politics" towards non-ascended beings.

 

While i dont want to get into Q or Ancient politics... Ancients are ascended beings, omnipotent (though they don't interfere). Q is an enigma for sure, as our the few ascended ancients who have interfered in human affairs.

 

 

6. Since most human starships was a secret... they were lost in WW3, the Eugenics war... or they just plain ol' left the galaxy to find greener pasteures. Hell. You can throw in Battlestar Galactica (reimagened) right here. They FTL away because of the wars and create the twelve colonies in another galaxy. Or hell... just in the gamma quadrant somewhere. Or in the Delta... take your pick. Even another galaxy.

 

In the worldwide economic, social, and governmental collapse of World War 3/The Eugenics war... The FTL ships escaped the distruction, some were colony ships/military escorts that had to make an emergency jump to a random sector (Battlestar Galactica?) Others may have escaped to pegasus or another galaxy, perhaps burning out their engines. Much technology was lost during the wars... Cochrane and other innovators worked from partial data to reconstruct FTL travel. It can even be said that this partial or classified data that was lost could have been used to invent the transporter based on stargate RING technology.

 

 

7. The jiggly squiggles which were put in Chekov's ear in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan could be baby Goa'uld/Trill. Infant symbiotes can't take full control of their hosts.

 

Thus Chekov was able to resist the control, and Captain Terrell was able to turn his phaser on himself.

 

 

That's all I can remember right now.

Please, don't start knocking this thread. If you don't like it, don't read it.

It's a game. Nothing more.