Engineer101 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 i think we need a Unitary Government with 7 Chosen Leaders of the world. Why 7? Figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 what about fudal goverment and all the others that appear in the civ games (they are valid even though they are not implimented by the goverments of the world) just my bite :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oma Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 i think we need a Unitary Government with 7 Chosen Leaders of the world. Why 7? Figure it out Seven deadly sins? Snowwhite and the 7 dwarfs? 7 races (black, white, yellow, tan (subdivided into indian, real indian, and eskimoes)) - that makes six, so that's not it, right? 7 continents... no, wait...there's only 5....or 6. 7 religions? Nope, there's a bunch of 'em... 7 Nations with nukes? (Russia, N-korea, USA, Israel, ...Iran? ...UK and France) - this must be it.. or does Pakistan and India also have nukes..? 7 x 6 = 42 ....If you know what I mean... 7 billion is the next nice, round figure earths population will reach..? 7-Up? 7 is the number of people who synchronously think I should just put this post out of it's misery and end it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannie Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 There are 7 continents, but I'm not really sure we need representatives from the scientists at Antarctica since they only live there for a few months, and if asked where they were citizens they probably wouldn't say Antarctica. There was not an option for socialism. I don't know exactly what I mean by that, but to me I always picture a sort of sythesis of democracy and communism. Let the people choose the course of their world, and the only way they can do that is if they are all treated equally. You may say I'm a dreamer... but why can't doctors and garbage collectors all get paid the same amount? Yes, doctors are important, but I sure don't want my garbage sitting out front for years. Of course my real dream is that people would do jobs because they actually wanted to, not because they have to, ie. money no longer existed. People always complain about computers taking jobs from people, I complain because computers aren't taking the jobs fast enough. If we had machines doing all the menial labour (non AI of course) we would be free to pursue whatever we wanted. BTW, communism is not about living under a dictator, a dictatorship is only the 4th of 5 steps (I think that's right) after the government is dissolved you need someone to assume power so that he/she can get everything in order before stepping down. The dictator is only supposed to be a necessary phase to no government. The problem is that humans are greedy, and so once they get that power they don't tend to step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer101 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 Dictatorship only works in small groups mostly in School. as in the classroom, the Teacher is the dictator, and make up some rules like no head phones and stuff. That teacher controls grades. and something more. but i forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oma Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Damn....I don't remember antarctica as a continent from school...must be because of all that cruel dictatorship and all :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elladan Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Damn....I don't remember antarctica as a continent from school...must be because of all that cruel dictatorship and all :p Apparently those scientists do more than just research... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderbear Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Dictatorship only works in small groups mostly in School. as in the classroom' date=' the Teacher is the dictator, and make up some rules like no head phones and stuff. That teacher controls grades. and something more. but i forgot[/quote'] And in democratic states, a dictatorial teacher does students a disservice. In "democratic classroom" the teacher is responsible for maintaining a learning environment, but part of that learning is for students to participate in co-creating the learning experience. See Paulo Freire's excellent (and dense) Pedagogy of the Oppressed for further info. It helps to have a passing familiarity with Marxist-Leninism, because Freire puts most of his energy into refuting their approach. When I tried to read the book during my pre-radical days, it didn't make a lot of sense. After I got to know my way around communism and some of the flavors of Marxism, it made much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteShdw Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Being a political science major (including economics), the world system is the way it is because of people. People want power, people want money (a form of power). Democracy is only one method of controlling those who have power by creating institutions. I believe there are better systems of economics and government, but I also believe that as long as mankind is imperfect, we will never reach those systems. Look at Star Trek: They claim to be 'enlightened' and they no longer have money (yes, money is imaginary), and yet, look how many episodes dealt with off-base Admirals and captain's getting angry? As long as people (we) are imperfect, then we must realize that there will be no such thing as a perfect system, or even a decently fair system. People have to make compromises in order to come to consensus, there will always be winners and losers. Complain if you must, but realize that you, in the developed world, live a life that is so much better than 95% of the world, that you don't even realize it or seem to care. Yes, capitalism creates inequality, but while the rich get richer, the poor get richer. Even if the poor get richer slower than the richer get richer (creating mroe inequality), they are still better off than they were before. The only way to change the 'unfairness' or the 'inequality' in our system, the world system, is the change ourselves. As long as we care about our own persons before others, nothing will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonHelton Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 The only way to change that is to make every one of us into mindless robots. :stare: ......Even an evil genius bent on taking over the world wouldn't want that, since there wouldn't be any point to it. There's no one to dominate or subjugate, you see. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comtron Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 technocracy 4 life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zgamesforu Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Hey comrad Stalin found a way without turning everyone into robots, just get rid of the extra people so no one is gready except him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer101 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 IE THE GREAT PURGE which later ruin stalin when he tryed to mobilized his soviet army during world war 2 which was purge during the great purge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psheldrake1 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 ok the first people to colonize planets goes in this order 10,000 americans 1000 germans 600 britains 200 canadians 400,000 chinese 50,000 Russian Soldiers ^----if u disagree with this order. DO BETTER You only need 200 Canadians. We must be the intellectuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer101 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 ok the first people to colonize planets goes in this order 10,000 americans 1000 germans 600 britains 200 canadians 400,000 chinese 50,000 Russian Soldiers ^----if u disagree with this order. DO BETTER You only need 200 Canadians. We must be the intellectuals. heres the new order 100,000 americans 10000 germans 6000 britains 2000 canadians 4,000,000 chinese 500,000 Russian Soldiers and 500 from every country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psheldrake1 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'm a new democrat. I can't remember where we buried the old democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zgamesforu Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 More like: 5000 canadians (to be the commanders and the brains) 5,001 americans (to think they're the best cuz they have the most people) 50,000 Russian Soldiers (to protect the colony) 200,000 chinese (to start farming and maintaining everything) 6000 britains (to make the tea) 10000 germans (to work in the orbital mercedes starship factory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubix Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Democracy, not perfect but the best we came up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zgamesforu Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Actually communist is the best, it's just that we have too many people on this marble for it to work. so democracy and capitalism will kill of most of the extras then it will be suitable for communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elladan Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Actually communist is the best' date=' it's just that we have too many people on this marble for it to work. so democracy and capitalism will kill of most of the extras then it will be suitable for communism[/quote'] I like your attitude, dude. ;) What's extra? All over 1 billion? It is a show of typically HUMAN ARROGANCE to calculate only based on THEIR OWN needs (no matter how damned commie you may be... ;) just kidding) and disregard all other life forms on this pesky 'blue' marble. I'd say: "LORD God, could you please wipe out 4 billion more people, so we can finally live as equals? That tsunami of yours turned out to be not so very effective enough for us, with not even a single million dead. You sure can do better!" Yeah, I would arrange a meeting with the Janitor, if I were God and anyone was asking this. Luckily enough for everyone, I'm not. Oh and btw, zgames, commie-style works only with a hive-minded type of humans. You cannot share what you do not have, and you cannot erase the humanity (which is here: competitive nature of men, this being the heart of evolution) so you'll keep having the bid for power. There is no such thing as "BEST Government", despite our deepest wish is that there was. With the greatest respect, Elladan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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