TetsuoShima Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I found a trojan in the game! :-[ Bad, VERY bad!! :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 lol, yeah a virus and a ghost in the machine as well. scary, scary ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 i don't really think chatting about security on a public forum is a good idea :) i will say however that the admin control panel gives you no access to the IGB figures. I haven't banned him yet either but even without proof it was very suspicious that he suddenly jumped above me with a few thousand less turns and he was also scanning sectors and he scanned my ship 8 times. hardly the behaviour of someone playing economically with his turns. Need i say that he had 1T in the IGB which (on under 3000 turns is an impossibility hell even if every planet he owned (10) had 100 mill colonists and he didnt spend the money and traded with a L25 hull banking all profits he wouldn't have made that amount of money. the new security features are geared towards finding trends in style that are impossible within the game and these players were also in direct contact with each other... my next plan is to remove all players who haven't made a move yet (some duplicates in here) not sure if Nite wants to play or not but he can sign up a new account if he wants to, the emails will be changed so that it won't conflict :) lol I should point out that my alliance is a continuation of the game before the server died in feb, and ghostrider is not me. my allies are learning the game and any hostility towards them will be dealt with by disproportionate means lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Admin control panel gives no access to the IGB figures. which might be taken to mean they used to do that, before you changed the code? hmmmm. well, Virus and Trojan(me) were your old teammates and now we have to compete against you and the newbies. darn. lol. I have no problems with new players. I will defend myself and my allies. I captured 2 of bbad's worlds before he was killed. My preferred targets are strong xenobes. Who might Unknown be? He's up to 12th place. Although, I do remember someone uisng vaguely similar names before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbad Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hello. who is bbad? and how did he take out 3 of my biggest planet over night. one had over 3 million fighters on it. I am bbad, In your planets was only 0,8 million fighters and it is easy to remove them (SOFA). Let i think, it takes only 10 minutes to capture 3 your planets, because my score was smaller than your then. lol i did a look an bbad, pold, A & Alx all have estonian IP's my guess they are all pold. they all have unique ip addresses tho so can't prove anything. it is easy enough however to have multiple email accounts and log off/on with a diff ip each time but the fact they are all estonian says a lot imo Yes, I am estonian, but if you think, that i cheat, then you are wrong. It is true, that pold and noormees21 is cheaters, all estonians know it. But if you think, that all estonians is cheaters, then i must to say, that you are wrong. I and some other estonians (like Case, TNT, Sonic, Max, Gagarin, WD40, There and others) was played many different places (like blacknovatraders) and all game admins know, that we are not cheaters. They also knows, who is cheater (pold :) ). Also, i think, that i and pold dont use same ip addresses. [br]Posted on: March 21, 2007, 01:56:39 AMI have some problems too. It was absurd reason, to punish me in game. If you dont like to see some new players in your site, then i forget this game and will play only there, where admins like to see good players in his site. I think, that it is not funny to play with 3 players? So, I made self-destruct, because admin was penalized me and he has no good reason for it. I see, that only Trojan understand, that i not cheat in the game. Bye! And sorry with my bad english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 well the evidence pointed towards cheating and there are a lot of coincidences plus we have had plenty of trouble with players from estonia who have cheated. I've said before that i don't want to ban ppl from this game choosing instead to prevent these cheats from cheating and as i mentioned in a previous post on this thread i don't want to ban players merely because they are estonian. I would say that you're english is considerably better than either polds or noormees which is proof to me that you are in fact neither of these players. As far as IP's go i know myself how easy it is to set up additional IP's and use emails with them. Perhaps i got it worng in acting but i would say that the game has had the database saved today before this action and that i could very easily restore it so you haven't lost out. I am glad you confronted us about this as that was what i intended by acting as i did. i will revert the database and send you an email you will have only lost a few turns and you're ship and bank will be as they were. Unknown is jemax btw :P[br]Posted on: March 21, 2007, 08:28:06 AMdatabase has been restored. some turns have been lost but not many. i hope it hasnt cut out some new players but tbh the loss of turns is only about 50 so most players shouldn't notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hello. I see, that only Trojan understand, that i not cheat in the game. Where do you get the idea I'm thinking you are not a cheater? People showing up suddenly and taking out defended planets in one day is impossible unless I never learned to play this thing correctly. UNless you killed several major xenobes, you shouldn't have a score like that or be capable of getting it....ergo, we think you probably cheat. Also, it has been mentioned that one cheater had 1 trillion credits already, which IS impossible at this stage in the game. IF it was you, explain how you are such a magical player that things happen to you that no one else here could possiblly duplicate. we really want to know so we can do it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 New updated software installed. This is a lot of fixes and introduces planet naming by editing on screen, simply click the name and change it. i plan to introduce more features like this, this saves a hell of a lot of server load. I will leave this alone for the weekend to allow you guys to find any whitescreens and other bugs i have missed, all going well i can get to work on the new game features i have planned like easter egg planets, space debris, more xenobe functions (pirates and bounty hunters) & team playing. I also hope to have some new ship and port images at the end of the weekend and the frontpage will be changed plus new themes. so let me know of any bugs.[br]Posted on: March 21, 2007, 10:26:39 AMIve spotted a bug already lol you can rename enemy planets lol will get that fixed today but it could be fun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I noticed. I thought my computer had gone screwy. there is still a bug in planet menu at the bottom link, you go white page and links all fail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hello. who is bbad? and how did he take out 3 of my biggest planet over night. one had over 3 million fighters on it. I am bbad, In your planets was only 0,8 million fighters and it is easy to remove them (SOFA). Let i think, it takes only 10 minutes to capture 3 your planets, because my score was smaller than your then. lol i did a look an bbad, pold, A & Alx all have estonian IP's my guess they are all pold. they all have unique ip addresses tho so can't prove anything. it is easy enough however to have multiple email accounts and log off/on with a diff ip each time but the fact they are all estonian says a lot imo Yes, I am estonian, but if you think, that i cheat, then you are wrong. It is true, that pold and noormees21 is cheaters, all estonians know it. But if you think, that all estonians is cheaters, then i must to say, that you are wrong. I and some other estonians (like Case, TNT, Sonic, Max, Gagarin, WD40, There and others) was played many different places (like blacknovatraders) and all game admins know, that we are not cheaters. They also knows, who is cheater (pold :) ). Also, i think, that i and pold dont use same ip addresses. [br]Posted on: March 21, 2007, 01:56:39 AMI have some problems too. It was absurd reason, to punish me in game. If you dont like to see some new players in your site, then i forget this game and will play only there, where admins like to see good players in his site. I think, that it is not funny to play with 3 players? So, I made self-destruct, because admin was penalized me and he has no good reason for it. I see, that only Trojan understand, that i not cheat in the game. Bye! And sorry with my bad english. If you wish, you can come back. Cheating is not tolerated on BNT, that's why we are working on a way to allow members to play BNT, without worrying about such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 looking on the behavior of bbad, i no longer think he is pold. but it took me and Ddog all night to sofa attack 15-4 at the cost of my ship. then Ddog came on this morning and took the planet. unless there are xenobe planets out there i dont know how bbad took my planets so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 While bbad wasn't using the same tactics as pold, it was still very odd that he, on the same apparent day he started playing, was able to know where occupied sectors were located and upgrade his ship to the point he could capture them. Where did his knowledge of the current new galaxy originate? Where did his funding for upgrades originate? With the new changes in the code, the onscreen play is different from other variations of this game. How did he get used to it so quickly? Well, one succesful cheat strategy would be to play as several players. Each one would gather credits, leave them on an undefended planet. Next player shows up, takes planet and money, upgrades and does a repeat. You make a list of any occupied sectors you find. When you are strong enough to capture the occupied sectors, you upgrade and try to take them. "Gee, I am such a good player. I managed on my first day to conquer a whole sector."- cheater The similarity between bbad's sudden rise from obscurity and cheating using that technique parallel very closely. The alledged use of SOFAs to conquer isn't explained as he would still need to have traded a lot to gain the funding for weapons. We'll keep an eye on him. We'll also watch the others. Megalith is keeping a database of the game for resets and backups. I'd prefer onhand moderation such as coming in and deleting the cheats to backing up. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 you are sooo right. but pold always leaves after we take him out then comes back with another name and starts over. he never sign into the forum and complained. his playing was almost just like pold. for all i know they still maybe the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Pold did register an account on the forum. It was not used, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 he never sign into the forum and complained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Well, guys. We've lost out again. A backup had to be used to get us going. Man, these hurt. I lost 7 fully colonized planets and several ranks. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 It's possible that once our hosting company is finished working on the servers, traders can be restored fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 That would be nice. :) However, some players are NOT members here in the forum. They may try to rebuild and then again lose sectors/planets when the upgrades are finalized simply from lack of info. :o As I said, these multi-day restarts hurt. One day's loss, I could rebuild quickly. Several days loss, I have to decide where to rebuild and what. Since we may go back to where we were a day or so ago, best to just hold and do nothing. :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I added an announcment to the game to alert people to keep up with the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thank you. I just looked at it. As it is in the game itself instead of on the login page, everyone should be able to keep up. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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