xalloutwarx Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 the same reason they dont use bullets to destory an emeny shit, cus it has forcefields... this thread could turn into "what dont the federation use bullets on the enemys ships" borg and ships have forcefields that deflect bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arktis Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hello xalloutwarx. :cyclops: I suggest you read the entire thread before posting. :p Edit: At the very least, read the full first post and take a moment to think about it. The first post in this thread is short, so that shouldn't be too difficult. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalloutwarx Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I have read it Mr Arktis, and i dont think it makes a difference if the forcefield (or shelds) are around a borg drone or a ship! and Mr Arktis how about you stop being so fucking patranising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 megalith said: ...it takes virtually no power to produce modulating it would be a problem, in a sense, but then seeing as it contains all frequancies it doesnt actually need modulating as such. well umm ok there should be a comma after produce and should read ...it takes virtually no power to produce, modulating it would be a problem, in a sense, but then seeing as it contains all frequancies it doesnt actually need modulating as such. I'm not sure if it was my grammar that you found at fault there Arktis so i will include a few definitions and an expanded conclusion just to be on the safe side. White Noise. A random noise signal that has the same energy level at all frequencies. Modulation. The process of modifying some characteristic of a wave (the carrier wave) so that it varies in step with the instantaneous value of another wave (the modulating wave) in order to transmit information. the modified characteristic may be frequency, phase, and/or amplitude. A white noise signal varies its phase frequency and amplitude instantaneously thus illiminating entirely the need for any form of modulation (modulation of a random signal results in a less random signal). in order for it to be applied to a forcefield would require that the carrier wave (the white noise) be simply amplified at the required area of interest. The ellimination of the need for sophisticated programmable super high frequancy, phase and/or amplitude modulation circuitry would mean that this would require less energy to achieve than the method suggested in Star Trek. Sorry about the essay folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arktis Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I have read it Mr Arktis, and i dont think it makes a difference if the forcefield (or shelds) are around a borg drone or a ship! and Mr Arktis how about you stop being so ####ing patranising! I do appologize for any missunderstanding; I was merely trying to be nice. I think we can all benefit from a little niceness. If people aren't nice on these forums, they wind up getting banned for a total lack of niceness, and then they can have a nice time reflecting on the meaning and value of being nice. So, to be more specific; the Borg drones do not appear to be normally gaurded against bullets as evidenced in Star Trek: First Contact. Hence, the topic of this thread. Megalith: Maybe I am just a moron here, but I don't see how this could be applied to forcefield technology... it sounds more like something applied generally to producing signals (radio, light, etc) and therefore having more to do with jamming (since you are talking about producing some kind of emmision that covers all frequencies and the only use I can think of for such a thing is a broad based jamming signal and/or a message being sent simultaneously on all frequencies). Then again, I don't really understand anything about force fields either, and maybe in a sense this is what a force field is - a jammer of sorts. So in that sense I guess I could see what you are saying. Another thing I have been assuming is that "modulation" has something to do with tuning emmisions and of course that would mean that it couldn't be done with an infinite bounding (an oxymoron, I know), as I think you have already said. At any rate, I still think that simultaneously emitting something on all frequencies would consume more energy than just adjusting to emit only one or a certain set of frequencies. Sorry if I am making this out to be more complicated than it actually is or missinterpreting you. Just chalk it up to a lack of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 It's funny really - Borg look like they're covered in armour but I've seen jeans with more bullet stopping ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 its kinda one of my pet grievences about the borg really arktis i just find it kinda strange that this collective of supreme intelligences from all over the universe can be thwarted by merely tweaking the frequencies of their phasors. At the end of the day tho it is entertainment and it is science fiction so i go with it, i'm sure many people here have grievences with some of the scientific explanations given from any sci-fi show. On topic tho bullets are extremely predictable things and as you said arktis once they had adapted to one bullet, they have adapted to them all. the point mentioned by xalloutwarx is equally a valid point regarding projectiles, a ship travelling at the speeds that a starship does would be destroyed by a particle of dust if its shields were not able to repel projectile objects. in a sense this is the opposite of the scenario this thread is about but it is the same point, by its nature a forcefield would repel a projected missile I think tho that a rocket launcher should work on a borg as the explosive mass would be transferred from the impact of course a handful of rockets and a launcher would have little overall effect on a shipful of borgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arktis Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Well done everyone! Group hug! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 It's funny really - Borg look like they're covered in armour but I've seen jeans with more bullet stopping ability. Yeah - it'd be easier having bullet proof armour than the sheilds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arktis Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 What about the face? Or the various wires and tubes sticking out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 .......yeah sheilds are the best way to go :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 If the Borg are so mucking ace - they'd be able to function with sensor blisters and not be so dependent upon their clearly weak biological compoonents but they get shot up, even with body armour. Man, even Master Chief and JC Dentin could shrug off bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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