CrazyBob Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yeah, I really should watch the rest of Enterprise... But I was quite disappointed at the way they ended the Xindi war :P We waited a year for them to solve the problem, and they just come up with a new one, lol... Anyways, I saw the miror universe episodes (probably the only ones I saw from the last season), I loved the Intro for them !! Best StarTrek intro ever! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Thanks! I actually only found this site a few days ago.... what a great community :) Anyways, I completely agree with you... And once again, I think naming the ship Enterprise was a huge mistake... If there's one thing that every trek fan knows, it's the different Enterprises, from NCC-1701 to NCC-1701E... The NX-01 doesn't fit in to that list... They should have just called the ship "The NX-01" I think the original concept for ENT was good, I've always been curious about the beginning of the Federation and Starfleet... But they really didn't go into the stories that the fans wanted to see... Gene would be dissapointed... (to tell you the truth, I didn't even know Enterprise was a Star Trek show until season 2 :P - and I'm a hardcore ST fan...) EDIT: On a side note, I really think they should have done an episode of ENT with Section 31... It's existed since the beginning of Starfleet, no? :P (and where were they during the Xindi crisis??) Yeah, it should have been named something else. It's funny but (from the outside) the NX-01 actually looked more advanced than the ship from TOS. Speaking of the Federation and Starfleet's beginnings...I would have enjoyed a show that revolved around The Federation's beginnings, Starfleet's begins and Starfleet Academy. Back in the late 60s-early 70s they had a few shows on TV that were detective/doctor stories featuring 3 main characters. Each week a show would feature a different character and his life/world. That series gave us Columbo, McCloud, MacMillian and Wife, etc. That would have been nice if they did that with Trek. One week the Federation, next week Starfleet and then Starfleet Academy. Yeah, it might have been interesting to see more on section 31. EDIT: Tenebrae, again you have put it in the proverbial nut shell! c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabrood Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 EDIT: On a side note, I really think they should have done an episode of ENT with Section 31... It's existed since the beginning of Starfleet, no? :P (and where were they during the Xindi crisis??) I would count "Affliction/Divergence" as section 31 related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Was Section 31 formed at the beginning of Starfleet or the beginning of the Federation? I forget - but it's not made clear if it is Section 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Section 31 was formed with the Federation. I think the strong implication was that the organisation seen in Ent was the precursor to Section 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 It's hard to say, they don't really spell it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soval Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 It would have been hard for them to design more futuristic consoles. Perhaps they could have used holograms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 That seems fairly unlikely too - I mean, people are saying now that they'll be able to stick a chip in the back of your head in 30 or so years. I recall someone commenting that sci-fi had really changed a lot since its inception... back in the 60s you had people writing about galaxy spanning empires far in the future and now you have people struggling to predict what's going to happen 20-30 years into the future. To be honest though, if you had everyone sitting there - it would be boring and presumably having people on the inside of some virtual construct (ala Matrix Reloaded) it would have been way too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 11) No bathrooms. Apparently, they've eliminated urination and defecation along with poverty, hunger and the other social ills. They do have bathrooms, on some TNG episodes we see Troi in the bathtub also quarks brother NOG worked in the waste extraction area of DS9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hohoho, what a schoolboy error. Quark's brother is ROM. Nog is Rom's son and hence Quark's nephew but yes, Rom worked in waste extraction... but we never actually see a toilet and apparently, none are on any Trek schematics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Was Section 31 formed at the beginning of Starfleet or the beginning of the Federation? I forget - but it's not made clear if it is Section 31 Check out this interesting Wiki article on Section 31: Section 31 In the Star Trek fictional universe Section 31 is the unofficial designation of a rogue and officially nonexistent intelligence and defense organization resembling secret police or a black-ops organization. The organization appears or is mentioned across eight episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (Possibly nine episodes and mentioned on Star Trek: TNG in the episode The Pegasus (TNG episode) as mentioned by Admiral Erik Pressman, played by Terry O'Quinn. The introduction of Section 31 has been controversial among Star Trek fans, some of whom feel it goes against the ideals of creator Gene Roddenberry. Overview Section 31 exists outside Starfleet Intelligence's influence and deals with threats to Earth's and, later, the Federation's security (DS9: "Inquisition"). Its operating authority stems from an obscure provision of the Starfleet charter  Article 14, Section 31, from which its name is derived  that makes allowances for "bending the rules" during times of extraordinary threats (ENT: "Affliction"). While the original intent may have been to give Starfleet personnel some leeway when it comes to unusual or extreme circumstances, some Federation Council and Starfleet officials have taken it a step further and secretly created a standing organization able to respond to any threat, preemptively if need be. Section 31 is similar to Romulan Tal Shiar or Cardassian Obsidian Order in that it operates covertly. Unlike its alien counterparts, however, few Federation citizens know of its existence. Little of Section 31's history has been revealed in on-screen canon. However, the Star Trek Expanded Universe expands on Section 31's operations. Pocket Books published a four-part series profiling connections between Section 31's operations and missions of James T. Kirk, Jean-Luc Picard, and the crews of Deep Space Nine and the USS Voyager. These novels explicitly linked Section 31 to Fleet Admiral Cartwright's actions in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and Vice Admiral Matthew Dougherty's actions in Star Trek: Insurrection (one novel describes the events of that film as "a failed Section 31 operation in the Briar Patch"). Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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