wahaha Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Well looky here. Happened to get my hands on a copy. It's pretty impressive, but not a big jump from XP. Mostly it's just flashy graphics that will overload your system if you have a poor video card. (those shaded "gadgets" windows on the side has a slideshow) Amazingly my ram is slower than the vid card in the performance test! Maybe it's because I refuse to use a page file, and half of it was taken up by the damn OS (300MB with most everything shut down) so yes it does require at least 512 to 1GB, or it was because my ram isn't running at full speed, yet*800mhz. It says anything at or below a 3 is only good for word processing and not gaming or multimedia. So if you have a AMD64 x2 3800+ with 1GB ram an ati x800 256MB and a seagate 250GB 7200.10 SATA2, you'll be able to put the Ba'al to the wall for a few years. I think it's a keeper, only just for the AERO graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 how cheap is that!! what hapened to the 3d desktop??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 You mean this? These are the features that take up the most mem. It loads pretty quick on this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven3x7 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nice screens. BTW Windows actually needs the pagefile no matter how much RAM you got. Im a bit worried about all the DRM and signed drivers cr*p. And of course there's the usual warning i give to wait for sp1 before installing any new MS operating systems. P.S. Your RAM is OK now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Vista sux, it will not allow the installation of unsigned drivers, and thus is pretty useless to any 'real' hardware enthousiast out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 The screens and the fact it boots a lot faster are the only thing I like about vista, other than that, it's a hog of a program still. I'm going to put winXP back on. The media player 11 crashes too much for my taste in this beta. Ram should be here monday or tues. I paid for them to send it RMA to me first before I sent back the bad pair. It apparently was mislabeled so we'll see. I doubt I will get much of an improvement since leaving the FSB speed alone I get 6100+MB/s bandwidth, and overclocked to 750 it only jumps to 7100. So 800 should get another 1000 over that. Far from the top in sisoft that shows 11,000 out of an FX-62 I think on 1066mhz ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 thats still not 3d enough for the spec they ask.... rem i one of those linux thread, somebody posted a pic of their 3d desktop (i think it was suse),,, and it was miles better looking!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 There's really nothing 3d about the new desktop. It's just got a new glossy/transparency look to it more than anything. It's nothing special and the common complaint is they copied the look from MAC OS 10. I saw those Linux screens. It's some program called XGL I think. Not very impressed with it either. I even tried installing 2 different versions of Linux the other night. 2 different versions, and NONE of them would work!@!@ Spent MINUTES downloading each DVD iso. What a waste of time. Unbutt oo, or whatever it's named, kept freezing during install from the video card I assume. Never got past that. Fedora 5 would just dump to a command line everytime I got done installing it and rebooted. It never went to the rest of the graphical autoconfigure crap that it was supposed to. Don't know why. Wasn't going to waste my time with Linux anymore. They were both 64 bit versions. Maybe it would have worked if I D/L the x86 versions? I wasn't going to waste my time D/L suse 10. Heard there were even more problems with that version, and it takes 2 DVD ISO I believe. The other one Lindows, I'm not paying for Linux sorry.. That's the problem with Linux. People who have a hard time with it will never come back to it. And there's a severe lack of support for it for gaming and drivers. And I have no problem whatsoever using windows, since I've learned to command that ship LONG ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 i've only used x86 version and they all worked a treat... fedora (3,4,5) and mardrax 10... i searched for the 3d thingy & seem the nu mandrake 2007 suppose to support it (as an option during installation).... ain't got time to mess around though... maybe next year when i get a nu pc/laptop then i'll have some time to mess around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Data Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Gonna buy a new LapTop at Christmas time, Hope dell got it by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Isn't the 3d desktop just going to confuse drunk people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 drinking & surffin' can do more damage than you'd think...... excellent!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I can already see myself turning the monitor sideways to try and make it look right, or just falling off my chair. Either that or the two will cancel each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vystral Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I had an older beta of Vista, before they implemented the 3D desktop. I really wasn't impressed. But, I'm sure they've made a lot of improvements. The way I see it, I have no problem with XP Pro. It's stable, easy to install, and it doesn't hog resources. (never thought I would've said that last one 5 years ago...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Speaking of 3D desktops for linux... ... and one from Sun that looks really impressive. I especially like the ability to flip the browser backward and scrawl notes on the back... ^^ Edit: Oh, and I forgot Novell's Xgl! Wobbly windows, edge grabbing that stretches, and a cube desktop with windows that roll over the edges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 VISTA has a notepad gadget on the side of the screen you can add for note taking too, along with weather and crap. But like it was said before, it's just a knock off of yahoo widgets. I'm using the 64 bit RC1 5600 now, and it doesn't want to work with my tv tuner software. Don't know what else it won't work with yet, but it doesn't seem any faster either. It's got the 64 bit internet explorer too. I'll probably keep it installed for the next 10+ months until the key expires to work out all the bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyran Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 The Answer here is to make a ghost of your windows drive and then upgrade to RC1 which should in theoy keep all your drivers :) and then when your totally pissed off with vista you can put your old windows back in about ten minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 Ya, I read on some website that is the way to go for driver transferring. A clean install will wipe most of it out and new drivers won't work unless you do the upgrade. I've already wiped the 64 bit version off. It's not worth the trouble. Nice thing is the 32bit one has my tuner software on the win update site, and ran the pinnacle pctv installer in winxp compat mode and it works. But media center can't find the tuner. Only problems so far is the annoying switch to windows mail, a problem where after sitting for the night and rebooting it reinstalls old ATI drivers, and the magically vanishing language toolbar. Other thing is it won't let me erase the 1GB hibernation file even though it's off. And if I try to turn off UAC it messes everything up it seems. And still can't get into some "restricted" folders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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