Ulysses Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Yes... its been a good time for Sci-Fi... but inspite of all that, Trek is like an friend you miss having around. Sure.. you enjoy BG, Firefly, Dr. Who, etc... but its ALWAYS good to sit down with an old friend. I couldn't agree more. Other sci-fi shows are great to watch but Star trek is somthing that, even though it's quite old now, is good to just sit down and watch once in a while. +1 Q'ness to you :) I dunno BSG has took Sci-Fi to a completly new level in darkness of its storylines and the sheer pace of the show, even star trek would struggle in competing with it, saying that shame there is not star trek and battlestar galactica battling for the ratings like the soaps, would be intresting to see which one would be more popular if they where both aired on free to view channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Yeah.. there is still so much of the universe to expound on... I personally hope that the next tv show (whenever that will be) will be post DS9/Voyager/Nemesis . hmm... i'm not sure about that. I mean Voyager has explored the Delta Quadrent, DS9 pretty much explored the Gamma Quadrent. The Beta Quadrent perhaps? But then again much of Federation space is already in the Beta Quadrent. I suppose Star Trek would have to do an SG Atlantis and explore another galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 hmm, I know it's commonly said that voyager did the delta quadrant and ds9 the gamma and tos/tng alpha+little bit beta, and it's admitted in the final 24th century series that they've pretty much explored most of the alpha quadrant, but lets not forget that ds9 only visited a very small part of the gamma quadrant around the wormhole and voyager only a very small part of the delta quadrant (the line they travelled). Saying we've done delta and gamma, is the same as visiting wall street in New York and saying you've seen all of New York (probably not a completely accurate comparison, but you can understand what I mean). Plenty of galaxy left to explore. Plain old similar show as tng/ds9/voy is out of the question as a follow up however, they need something refreshing, if they are to last more than 3 seasons.. (whenever they feel like trying another series that is, could be a while I figure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjnave Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 You still have the effects of the Dominion war to deal with... 700 million dead on Cardassia... the new Feringinar, and Kronos... not to mention finding out more about the Breen and the consequence of them siding with the dominion. Then theres also the new relationships with the Romulans. Then theres always the deal with Sisko living with the Prophets and what that means.. id say theres a lot that could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Good to see some people are on the same page as me... I mean, seriously - Magellan didn't circumnavigate the globe (because he actually died before he got home) and say "Well, that's it - I've gone round the world... better just call off all further exploration because it's DONE." Which is pretty much what people seem to have been implying about Voyager. They didn't go in a perfect straight line and Janeway did have them flying round in circles but then they did take several massive leaps. Not exactly a done deal... and yes, exploration was a teeny tiny part of DS9... plenty of exploring to do if they wanted to... And of course, if they wanted to look at the repercussions of the war - that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 aye, i understand where most of you are coming from, for me i love ST so much b/c it has a back bone that cant be broken. I mean there is a moral code, a stable federation, a utopia that must be protected from the scars of war and the brutality of totalitarianism and its interesting to me to watch people like Capitan Picard stand fast to their ideals and to see how they can totally grasp a situation and understand the needs required to handle the case they are in. BSG is a great series, I love it alot, its dark and philosophical. But you do not see the moral conduct that should be expected of a Human, and to be honest, its to religious for me. I like to think that Humans can become more, that they can understand what goes on around them, and from what I have seen in alot of Sci-fis out there, you just dont get what you got in ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soval Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 This is a good question that deserves a straight answer, YES! I watch Enterprise and have to pretend I'm watching it for the first time. Often times its the only good sci-fi on TV. How's that for a TV series cancelled nearly two years ago? Man I'm aging... I'll be in 2023 and still watching Enterprise as if it were yesterday. Last year watching Enterprise with my buddies was like watching it for the first time. Granted I had not seen some season 3 episodes until then. It's amazing how fast time goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiggy Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Miss it! Miss it! I`ll tell you how much I miss Star Trek. I miss it more than the girl at school who I never got the chance to ask out. I miss Trek like the girl...I day dream and wonder what shes doing, where she is now? Make more Trek NOW, before I am forced to pay Berman a house call and have to venture OUTSIDE......heaven forbid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 aye, i understand where most of you are coming from, for me i love ST so much b/c it has a back bone that cant be broken. I mean there is a moral code, a stable federation, a utopia that must be protected from the scars of war and the brutality of totalitarianism and its interesting to me to watch people like Capitan Picard stand fast to their ideals and to see how they can totally grasp a situation and understand the needs required to handle the case they are in. BSG is a great series, I love it alot, its dark and philosophical. But you do not see the moral conduct that should be expected of a Human, and to be honest, its to religious for me. I like to think that Humans can become more, that they can understand what goes on around them, and from what I have seen in alot of Sci-fis out there, you just dont get what you got in ST. lol well do you really think that there will be a utopian society, erm no, star trek is a pipe dream mostly, yes it covers morals and all that which we all love but deep down we all know alot of that is in a "ideal" world. BSG on the other hand is much more a true reflection on what humans are really like, volent, cheats, willing to sell someone in, shaft each other, list goes on and on. If there is a furture in space then I would bet it would be more like BSG than star trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 aye, i understand where most of you are coming from, for me i love ST so much b/c it has a back bone that cant be broken. I mean there is a moral code, a stable federation, a utopia that must be protected from the scars of war and the brutality of totalitarianism and its interesting to me to watch people like Capitan Picard stand fast to their ideals and to see how they can totally grasp a situation and understand the needs required to handle the case they are in. BSG is a great series, I love it alot, its dark and philosophical. But you do not see the moral conduct that should be expected of a Human, and to be honest, its to religious for me. I like to think that Humans can become more, that they can understand what goes on around them, and from what I have seen in alot of Sci-fis out there, you just dont get what you got in ST. lol well do you really think that there will be a utopian society, erm no, star trek is a pipe dream mostly, yes it covers morals and all that which we all love but deep down we all know alot of that is in a "ideal" world. BSG on the other hand is much more a true reflection on what humans are really like, volent, cheats, willing to sell someone in, shaft each other, list goes on and on. If there is a furture in space then I would bet it would be more like BSG than star trek. Hmm...although i'd like to say our future will be like Star Trek's version, i think it will probably be inbetween the Star Trek ideas and BSG ideas. Both shows seem to show an extreme view on what our future will be like. Star Trek shows paradise. BSG shows hell (well ok, i haven't seen much of BSG so 'hell may be a bit too extreme but you get the idea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 have any of you watched B5... watch it & never miss st again!!!! dare i say... its better than DS9... ouch... there goes my avtar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 BSG is hard to compare to Star Trek because they're not really the same setting... Star Trek and B5... well, DS9 was a poor man's B5 ;) But I think that was by the nature of the two shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 BSG on the other hand is much more a true reflection on what humans are really like, volent, cheats, willing to sell someone in, shaft each other, list goes on and on. If there is a furture in space then I would bet it would be more like BSG than star trek. hmm, isn't that a depressing thought... :( Star Trek future is indeed not going to happen probably, but striving for it is a good thing! B5 on the other hand is great! B5 is also somewhere in between BSG and Star Trek imo. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 i think we are gona most likly have a B5 future.... though a more realstic time line would be... -space'99 (lol ok so they messed up on the date, and the computer still prronts out on ticker tape...) -firefly -B5 -TOS can't comment on BSG, cus it ain't about our future,,, well i wonder what year it would be in did a bsg 1980 like film... lol ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 The backstory to B5's humanity is actually quite involved... but like ST's just barely covered in the show, which is a shame but I suppose you can't have people giving big ol' history lessons all the time and of course Firefly we just get "Earth was all used up!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 ahh how could i forget blakes7 in the time... dang.... :o set before firefly... but they have seemed to master artifical gravity..soooo hummm in B5 they didn't have that........??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I think it's a well known fact that artificial gravity (and the ability to pump it through a ship like central heating - as intuitor put it) is pretty much the top priority of all spacefaring civilisations, beyond weapons, FTL, shields or even toilets. B5 is something of an anomaly in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Star what? Oh, um... *ahem* Yes, I miss it. Honest! Seriously, though... I wasn't a an incredible hard core fan at the best of times, and there IS a lot of sci-fi out there (in movies, in TV series, in books, and so on), much of which was (imho) much better than even the best of Trek. It was a great series, sure... but it was also relatively shallow and thoroughly escapist, for the most part. It genuinely screamed Judeo-Christian morality, complete with less-than-subtle allusions to the human form being 'divine', genetic manipulation of all sorts being 'evil' (aka. "Playing God" and messing about with the divine perfection of the human form... *shudder* I feel dirty even SAYING that), and so forth. The alien races make cardboard cutouts feel fat in the third dimension, and ALL are simply one aspect of humanity blown large and caricature. I can't think of one race in Star Trek that isn't 'humans if we were all <insert specific characteristic>' in nature. Still... It was good for what it was, and although I'm not exactly crying out for a new series, it would bother me if the existing series disappeared from view forever. Damn... this sounds way too much like an eulogy. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 off topic, but err: They did have artificial gravity in the series B5, just not on the station B5 (and some other human ships). Most other races did have artificial gravity firmly integrated in their ship design. (at least, if I remember correctly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Actually, no human ships had artificial gravity until various events in season... 4? Or at least, that's when the Earth Alliance was given it. They never elaborate upon the prevalence of the technology but I think that it wasn't hugely common outside the "main" powers but yeah, obviously it existed but the implication of what I was saying is that - unlike just about every other sci-fi show - it wasn't the first thing a race develops. To be honest, GorunNova - the Judeo-Christian morality is common in most sci-fi shows... or so it seems. It's simply that Star Trek goes out its way to preach from the pulpit a lot more than most but Stargate lapses into similar patterns when given half a chance... although, really - it seems that Stargate dearly wants to be Star Trek these days. Anyway, good to see the hate is strong in you Gorun ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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