GorunNova Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Everyone has a father as well as a mother... at least except for those critters that bud or reproduce via meiosis ;). I wonder if the likelihood that gender originally evolved as a defense mechanism against parasites factors in anywhere... Edit: Oh, and I may have seemed to blend the Zohar and the Nag Hammardi Library... Zohar -> Work of Jewish Mysticism and analysis of the Torah. Nag Hammaradi Library -> Series of books unearthed in a farm in Egypt containing some of the works of Thomas and John that were mostly destroyed in the first centuries AD... and some writings by James, Paul, Philip... and Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Everyone has a father as well as a mother... at least except for those critters that bud or reproduce via meiosis ;). I wonder if the likelihood that gender originally evolved as a defense mechanism against parasites factors in anywhere... Edit: Oh, and I may have seemed to blend the Zohar and the Nag Hammardi Library... Zohar -> Work of Jewish Mysticism and analysis of the Torah. Nag Hammaradi Library -> Series of books unearthed in a farm in Egypt containing some of the works of Thomas and John that were mostly destroyed in the first centuries AD... and some writings by James, Paul, Philip... and Mary. My rational behind the mother is that all fetuses (fetii????) start off as female in the womb, it's only the addition of a chromosone that causes a mutation (not sexist just can't think of a better way of putting it) in the cells and cause someone to be male. So proto-people are always female. Mind you there are species that can change sex when needed. so in all probabity God is androgenous. I'll still stick with Goddess. As androgenous people as with those whi are transgendered tend to be exceptions rather than the rule, and unlike christians etc, I have no desire to remake God in my own image. Have you ever seen a film called 'Final Approach' BTW. it' s very good philoshophical movie made in 1992 and starring Hector Elonzo (spelling) and one of the cast of Hill Street Blues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Ever thought that the term "follow me" actually means 'follow my example' rather than "worship me" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Ever thought that the term "follow me" actually means 'follow my example' rather than "worship me" ?? Lol Very probably and that's probably caused more holy wars than you can dhake a stick at!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 My rational behind the mother is that all fetuses (fetii????) start off as female in the womb, it's only the addition of a chromosone that causes a mutation (not sexist just can't think of a better way of putting it) in the cells and cause someone to be male. So proto-people are always female. Fetuses doesn't exist until the egg and sperm fuse. Even though an egg has X gene it is still sexless. A double XX is needed for a female and XY is needed for male. Some mutation can occur because of the eggs mitochondrial DNA. It is called mitochondrial myopathy it passes from mother to child even if there aren't any mutations in the sperm. That isn't all. The X gene can carry a variety of genetic diseases that the Y gene can't stop because of it's small size. It is called X-linked recessive and Fragile X syndrome. :( quoting doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pef Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 genetics should solve that ^^ problem in say 70 years. real problem is not nature of god , is what those formal religions have done and continue to do against the human population.Maybe the future will bring forth a method of depriving the parents and society from enforcing local religion onto children(say maybe at least till 24 years old.) i doubt any one could get corrupted by a religion after passing the 24 year old. just remember that formalized religion are a form of control much like taxes or police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 i have a coupla beers every sunday afternoon. is that relgious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 i have a question what does an individual get out of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I cant say what a person gets from religion I can only what get from my spirituality Certainty, a sense of purpose, serenity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino4 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I don’t normally like to talk about religion... As I think it is everyone’s right to believe or not in what ever god or gods they choose. For myself I would protest in the strongest possible terms if someone was trying to force there beliefs onto others. As I said it must be a personal choice. If you want to believe then that's fine just don’t try to convince me. My reasoning for this is quite simple. If there were a god or gods, then they must be very cruel, to let so many bad things go in the world. I will get off my soap box now. (Rant Over) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pef Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Religion is the invention of politicians to control uneducated masses. Some of it's teachings are true ofc however the purpose behind it matters more.(social control).If some1 needs serenity,calm ,inner peace there much better ways to get them:meditation,drugs,extreme sports,sex ,sci-fi movies,games... One always needs to ask himself :are these my own belifs or are they implanted into me by others to their benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Religion is the invention of politicians to control uneducated masses. Some of it's teachings are true ofc however the purpose behind it matters more.(social control).If some1 needs serenity,calm ,inner peace there much better ways to get them:meditation,drugs,extreme sports,sex ,sci-fi movies,games... One always needs to ask himself :are these my own belifs or are they implanted into me by others to their benefit? I hope you were joking about the better ways!!! As to your point about social control I believe I mentioned that several times in previous posts. Belief and spirituality isn't always the same thing as religion. Again I don't believe in formalized religion: too much hypocrisy for my tastes. And in answer to your final question. My beliefs my own, forged from years of looking at formal religions and ancient cultures and personal experience. The only way in which anyone 'benefits' from those belief is that i try be tolerant, respectul of others and try to help those worse of than myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 i have a question what does an individual get out of religion? Belief,personal strength, hope and Heaven(depnds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Religion; The root of all good & evil I thought that money was the root, ;) I belive in the Founders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 i have recently read a book on the qabbalah - dont question the spelling. not cos madonna and a select bunch of others are into it but because i am interested in it. the first time i read a book on this was aged 12 when i found a copy on my parents bookcase. interesting book by yehuda berg - try it out. i dont like the idea of subscribing to anything glorified where people brag about how far theyve got, my spirituality is personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 i have a question what does an individual get out of religion? Religion is the opiate of the masses. I'm not sure who said it but it might have been Peewee Herman... IMHO...anything based on "faith" is a crock! I ain't from Missouri but ya gotta show me... c4 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I think both Nietzsche and Marx both said something along those lines, but Marx's is the one that takes that particular form. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 And that's all I gotta say about Religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 i have a question what does an individual get out of religion? Religion is the opiate of the masses. I'm not sure who said it but it might have been Peewee Herman... IMHO...anything based on "faith" is a crock! I ain't from Missouri but ya gotta show me... c4 :p Oscar Wilde made that quote. and i think religion is the opiate because life sucks and individuals need to believe that their lives are not meaningless. god or the concept of god can provide that for some people. the main reason for me not subscribing to a religion is simply fear. nothing to do woth the politics involving people who claim that they dod what they do for holy reasons - my spirituality is too personal to want to get involoved in that kind of crap and besides, it is pretty insulting to me to think that i cannot differentiate between religion and politics. following a religion or havong a faith does not mean giving up your identity if you choose the right one and is a remedy for the sideliners who slag off others while being too cynical to get involved themselves. and besides, church is a grreat place to meet innocent people to corrupt:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 IMHO...anything based on "faith" is a crock! I ain't from Missouri but ya gotta show me... c4 :p how can someone show you faith c4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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