The TimeLord War

[simon1603]

I have a strange feeling that it may have been the Doctor who started the Time War and as yet he hasnt been able to fix what he did, possibly in the past or the future.

 

Simon

[coolcat13]

well this was adressed in EarthShock he was not able to go back and save his companion because the event had happened in front of himThus Adrick was killed and couldnt be saved .The effect was named in Day of the Dalek cant remember what they called it . also since Gallifrey was taken out of the time stream i may not be possiable to travel through time to save it .

 

as for it bieng a timelord civil war thats out of the question because a large number of other species were also involved in the war .actually the logical conclusion is that the Daleks were involved and may have had assistance

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Me

[Antilles]

The effect mentioned in 'Day Of The Daleks' was a temporal paradox. The rebels going back in time to kill Styles to stop a war from starting ended up causing the war they went to prevent.

[coolcat13]

actually what I was talking about was in part 2 of the Day of the Daleks when Jo saked why they couldnt go back to the 12th and have another go at it .

The Dr called it the blimivich limitation effect

so if you go back to history to change an outcome you can only go to that specific time once

[paniq]

we know the darleks and the cybermen are both coming back - so maybe these?

 

But as the Doctor is unwilling to talk about his home planetr, then maybe it was him accidentally and he is trying to fix it?

[Recoilzed]

I'm still with the doc himself, he looked a little guilty in The End of the World, not just sad....

 

[TheTARDIS]

I think it would be cool if it was Fraction Paradox again

[DoctorWhoops]

 

In Rose The Doctor tells her that "There is a war going on!"

 

I just get the feeling that a Time War spilling out across the past, present, and future, would be difficult to contain.

 

If you were going to try and stop the war where would you start?

 

Not even The Doctor could be everywhere at once, unless the Time Lords diverted power to allow all his incarnations to "meet" and send them off on missions, (as per the three Doctor's, or time scoop them as per 5 Doctor's.)

 

But Gallifrey has been destroyed.... I think this tactic was anticipated and that could be why Gallifrey was strategically removed.

 

Would the Dalek battle computers come up with something like this? Or did The Daleks once more seek help from their creator Davros?

 

This is all conjecture on my behalf but I don't think The Doctor can stop the war, maybe the main players have wiped themselves out, and there are still small skirmishes goin on in the heavens.

 

The Doctor has lost one planet he loved, he doesn't want to lose ours too, and perhaps that's why he's hanging around earth so much. The Bad Wolf is being constantly referenced in the series, could this be the cause of the Time War, or just someone capitalising on it's chaos?

 

Keep watching... I know I will!

[atgxtg]

Based on what I"ve seen so far, I am getting the impression that it wasn"t just one group involved, but that practically every temporally capable culture wound up involved in the Timewar, along with others.

 

I suspect it might be a way to wipe out most, if not all of the classic Doctor Who species and history-similar to what Enterprise did to Star Trek"s continuity.

 

I suspect some sort of tempoeral paradox was created that resulted in much/most/all of the particapants being removed from the spacetime continuium.

 

In the promo for DALEK it is mentioned that the Dalek somhow dropped through the spacetime continuium,. Also, the Doctor appears surprised when, after he intrrduces himself, the Dalek goes into a "EXTERMINATE!" mode. He states that it is "impossible". While just a clip, I suspect that this hints that the Doctor"s past history with the Daleks has been eradicated in the timewar. Otherwise it would be the expected repsonse.

 

It is even possible that the current Doctor isn"t the 9th anyomre, but that the timewar caused his timeline to go off in a new direction. This would leave more room for regenerations and retconning.

 

It might also help to explain why the new series is considered a new series/season 1 rather than "classic series"/season 27

[coolcat13]

atgxtg I hope that you are wrong because it would be somewhat tragic if they abandoned the classic Who enemies .

 

that bieng said and you having a solid theory I will only bring up the point that UNIT still recognised the Dr so there is a good chance that this wiping did not happen but you may be right that only some of the wiping happened

 

I really wanted to see this weeks episode but I think I have an idea as to what may be going on .still I am not going to say what the guess is til Sunday

 

Then again we may not know anything until the last two episodes of the year .

(now wheres that RTD telephone number ?)

 

[atgxtg]

I hope I am wrong too. Retconning a show usually backfires. Like many associated with the old series have noted-no matter what they get rid of, be it monster, character, or obscure bit of Wholore,it will be SOMEONE"S favorite. So any change will end up bothering some diehard Doctor Who fans. Generally not a good thing to do when attempting to get a series up and running.

 

But, rewritting seems to be the rage with revived series, and the timewar will allow for any sort of change (like the rumoured new Dalek design). In theory it could be a good thing, allowing the writers to update some of the classic monsters so they can pass muster in the modern era, so they look less like guys in rubber suits.

 

 

It also allows them to reverse anything that doesn"t work. For instane if the new spider/hover daleks don"t catch on, they can be "timewared" right out of existence. Maybe even a story where the old and new daleks fight amongst each other to determine which are the "true daleks".

 

Heck, this might even be the backstory for the new dalek episode. Or not. Time will tell.

[Pella]

From what I've read the 8th Doctor destroyed Gallifrey in The Ancestor Cell after a time war against thr Faction Paradox. Iw ould love to see this as the time war that the program keeps mentioning, but all I really know is the RTD has planned out a story arc to deal with it.

 

It might be a coincidence, but the unnamed 12th episode of the new series is apparently called 'Bad Wolf' - as in the graffeti that sprayed on the TARDIS, and that is supposed to have a significant meaning and will be mentioned in several episodes as well.

[Sunrise]

I reckon its got to be The Doctor himself.

 

"Bad Wolf" I think could only refer to either The Doctor or The Master, and since its was sprayed on the Tardis as a kind of "Tag" could this mean that Bad Wolf IS The Doctor.

 

Also I haven't heard any Master rumours like "xxxx is going to play the Master", would they be able to keep that quiet?

[Pella]

I reckon its got to be The Doctor himself.

 

"Bad Wolf" I think could only refer to either The Doctor or The Master, and since its was sprayed on the Tardis as a kind of "Tag" could this mean that Bad Wolf IS The Doctor.

 

Also I haven't heard any Master rumours like "xxxx is going to play the Master", would they be able to keep that quiet?

 

A rumour was one of the doctor who websites that David Jason (only fools and horses) was going to play the Master

[coolcat13]

if the master is back then so much for the last Time Lord theory .

hope he is back though I am looking as forward to his return as that of the Daleks

[greigoa2b]

I believe in the ancester Cell novel of the doctor who series, it was the doctor himself that destroyed his world to stop the faction Paradox (who was lead by a final regeneration of the doctor) who his people were with war with.

[Pslock]

Ok let's get into some serious Dr. Who geekery... :)

 

Actually, the only thing that occured to me when the whole idea of the Time War was mentioned is that the TARDIS is supposed to have been powered by the Eye of Harmony, correct? All TARDISes are powered by the Eye. But, the Eye is on Gallifrey. If Gallifrey is gone, is the Eye actually inside the TARDIS? (as was hinted at in the god-awful TV movie one)

 

If so, that would be a perfect excuse to bring back Master, and a few other plot points.

[Sunrise]

if the master is back then so much for the last Time Lord theory .

hope he is back though I am looking as forward to his return as that of the Daleks

 

I was meaning if the Master is involved in the Time War, I presumed he too will be destroyed along with the Daleks and the rest of the Gallifreyans. So the last time lord theory still hold

[Antilles]

All this last time-lord, last Dalek stuff is really depressing, it would be more exciting to expand the Whoniverse than to shrink it which killing every damn thing off in a so called time war seems to be doing. Unless he somehow does a Pertwee and reverses the polarity of the neutron flow and restores the universe (and the BBC to its original greatness hehe)