GorunNova Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Also, the biggest indicators that it's not a loop are that everybody only goes through it once, and nobody's own personal timeline crosses itself directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 in my thinking a loop is circular and once begun never stops. a time loop would repeat something over and over infinitely. what seems to have happened from what you guys are saying is that 2 people, the doctor and Sally met each other in different temporal directions but never were in a personal loop. they played their parts and things moved on to something else not a repeat. from the outside it would always seem to be a loop though. Millenium the movie involves this phenomenon. It's about a time traveler and an aircraft crash investigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Only nobody really ever exists on the "outside". No one can really view events inside space/time from outside space/time. That's a vantage point no one can ever gain in reality. It's purely a thought problem, methinks. Off topic a bit, but I notice a running theme recently of beings from the beginnings of time coming back... the "Beast" from The Satan Pit, Racnoss, Carrionites, and now the "Angels" or Lonely Assassins. I wonder where this is all headed... Next thing you know he'll be going up against Cthulhu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 shhhh, the ancient cephalopods are listening. :cyclops: The Time Lords might have been able to observe events from outside. once. we can't. until the Time Rangers or whatever of the 25th century (Jack's guys) start monitoring and doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Remember... it's the whole wibbly-wobbly thing! XD Lots of wibbly wobblies intersecting at varying points along their length, and in this case the Doctor's wibbly wobbly is backwards when compared to Sally's wibbly wobbly... but not looped! From what the Doctor said, an actual loop would result in a big nasty explosion, hence why they all avoided such loops. Heh... I think that now that there are no more Time Lords to manage all the nasties in the time line, it's up to the Doctor to do their job, maintain the various prisons, and stop the various 'jail breaks'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyperion Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Something I noticed was that the Angels don't move if someone is watching them, they turn to stone and there were several instances when the main players weren't looking at them EXCEPT we were as outside viewers also 'watching' them. Seems their natural defense extends to those beyond their universe. Oh and a wise-ass answer to the whole 'You can't destroy a statue" thing - ever heard of dynamite? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Or [i wanna be!]a sledgehammer? Naturally, you're assuming they were made of something as conventional as stone... they could be made from Dalekinium. To be honest, I think that I'd be willing to overlook the bit when people weren't looking at them and so on and the fact Tennent guest starred because this was probably the best episode since the Doctor returned... certainly up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicky1991 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Sorry I'm posting so late... Best episode of the series. When I heard the Doctor wasn't going to be the main character, I thought it'd be rubbish like Love And Monsters, but obviously I was wrong. 10/10 Incidentally, this adventure seems to contradict the general opinion that the Annuals are canon - of course, there could be two Sally Sparrows, but even so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I too am very late in replying, its been almost a week since i watched this now but reading thru this it came back, my view is the complete opposite of flicky1991's i was looking forward to this as i thought it would be like the excellent love and monsters episode from the last series and i wasn't disappointed , The episode wasn't as funny as love and monsters but what it lacked in humour it made up for in in terror. I agree with everyone (now theres a first for the Dr Who forum lol all of us thought it was a good episode) i give this 9/10 which means it is my favourite episode of the series so far and a welcome relief from what essentially have been fillers for the last 3 or 4 weeks. No Saxon reference as Antilles pointed out (hmmm i seem to kind of remember something tho that did make me think is this a Saxon Reference but i can't remember it well enough now) I will have to watch this one again some point very soon. A lil off subject my mum said 'oh Sally Sparrow she must be Captain Jacks daughter or something', i had to point out that Captain Jack Sparrow is from pirates of the Caribbean and in no way is he related to our Captain Jack Harkness lol. Cant wait till tomorrows episode tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 ...so, are you saying she couldn't be from the Disney franchise? maybe loaned from Euro-Disney to the BBC? hmmm? hmmm? lol your mom may know more than you do about the show. hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBLOOD Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I do not really like scary movies, especially not horrors, but I like this (remember, horrors some years ago were not such a retarded bloodshed as these days). This episode was something really thrilling, playing only with imagination, no moving, only still standing figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Well, I haven't replied much on Dr Who episode threads, but this one needs an exception, this episode was exceptional, it was brilliant. It was written by Steven Moffat appearently and all his Dr Who stories so far have been fantastic, this is just confirmation of that. There was a run of very poor stories in the 3rd season imo ("Evolution of the Daleks", "The Lazarus Experiment", "42"), but this episode does make up for it somewhat. Darn this was a great ep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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