continuity errors

[maverick]

the thread on the colour of data's uniform made me wonder if it was an oversight or a make up thing or what.

 

so, has anyone spotted any continuity errors in trek (mainly) or obvious mistakes of any kind.

 

i dont recall any apart from the blindingly obvious fact that janeway could have thrown a packet of jaffa cakes at the borg and blownthem up.

 

they seemed very tough to kill in the initial encounters.

 

anyhoo, has anyone else seen errors in the timeline etc?

[werecow]

Damnit' date=' now you're gonna drive me crazy. After "All Good Things..." I did a temporal analysis of the timelines that brought the Enterprises to the climax of that one, and had the major error worked out. That was, of course, 10 years ago, and I'll be thinking of how I figured that out and trying to remember it for days...[/quote']

 

well im still trying to figger out in all good things...picard was in the future as an old man talking to geordi and data right???? umm well wasnt data sorta blown up in nemesis??? if he was all blowed up how could he be in picard's future???

[maverick]

Damnit' date=' now you're gonna drive me crazy. After "All Good Things..." I did a temporal analysis of the timelines that brought the Enterprises to the climax of that one, and had the major error worked out. That was, of course, 10 years ago, and I'll be thinking of how I figured that out and trying to remember it for days...[/quote']

 

well im still trying to figger out in all good things...picard was in the future as an old man talking to geordi and data right???? umm well wasnt data sorta blown up in nemesis??? if he was all blowed up how could he be in picard's future???

 

i think it was just a possible future made as a test for picard and set when picard is very old so it is stillpossible that B4 will become data and go to have data's future life. and if not then it could be explained by picard polluting the timeline by telling the bridge crew of his experiences so they could prevent that possible futur occurring.

 

more evidence to support the "specific test" by Q thingy is that during the ep, picard asks troi (i think) if she remebers him calling red alert on taking command of the enterprise, and she says no.

 

so the incidents were isolated.

 

and on a different subject entirely, whats the score with picard leading an away mission in nemesis and riker saying yes yes thats all right, after spending a decade telling him he is grounded?

[maverick]

Most of those errors can be put down to writers not following canon or the script bible in favour of what they wanted onscreen that day.

 

i.e., what I call the Voyager effect, since they avoided any sense of a timeline all the time.

 

i think voyager was set such a long way away that a federation timeline made little difference.

 

but also the makers havent scrapped the timelin they just made it look a little messy.

 

all things that have happened are possible, and lets be honest, if there is another movie then data will have to be present. B4 will make a sudden leap forward and become data.

 

it is simply annoyingly convenient but a great death for data!

[str82u]

I posted this very thing a day so ago...

 

Data was swapped with B4, plus he transfered all of his data to him, it's logical to assume that Data was probably in the habit of doing daily or weekly backup of himself,...hmeeee

 

 

HEY! why not bring Data back as anyone, all he needs is the android body with the positronic system (severely simplified) and he could look like Brad Pitt or some other actor who needs a sci-fi job.

 

The errors I have to think about, one in particular disturbs me, but at this hour also eludes me.

[S0V13T]

What realy irritated me about Voyager, was that one episode (I have no idea what season, or title of it) when Kess is living her life backwards. The ep begins at the end of her life, and she goes back a few months or so every time. She was married to Tom Paris, and her daughter was married to Harry Kim. (That by it's self would be bad enough, lol)

 

At one point she mentioned the alien race that use the temporal torpedos (The Year of Hell), and she determines that something about their attacks had to do with her travelling through time.

 

So eventually she shifts back to the Year of hell, and gets the temporal frequency (or whatever the hell it was called) of their weapons. At the end (I think it was in the holodeck) janeway or Tuvok or whoever asks for a full report on the temporal weapons, and the credits come on.

 

Right, thanks for reading so far :P

 

What my beef is, why didn't they have a defence ready for those aliens by the time they encountered them, and why didn't anyone think "hey, remember a few months ago, when Kes was talking about this exact thing happening ,gosh, we should get those frequencys and be on the gravy train?"

 

And just for the (completely unrelated) record, I'll go to my grave thinking that Data should have had a blue science uniform, becuase he's the chief science officer. :P

[maverick]

would love to shuffle the facts around on this one but i havent seen those eps for ages though YoH was a grreat ep

 

if youre right about the timeline where kes is unable to provide the data it sounds like the ep about yesterdays enterprise where noone knew the diff excpt guinan.

 

will have to watch em again

 

good post tho

[maverick]

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if youre right about the timeline where kes is unable to provide the data it sounds like the ep about yesterdays enterprise where noone knew the diff excpt guinan.

 

Not quite the same. Guinan was able to sense that the timeline had been altered, that it wasnt right. That was written in.

 

Kes was unable more by writers and producers simply ignoring her.

 

will have to watch them

[bbbb]

Let's not be silly, All Good Things was written well before Nemesis. They don't make these things up all at once and spit them out on screen every ten years you know.

[S0V13T]

When I was at the pub yesterday, waiting for my mate to come back to the table with a couple more pints, I started to wonder about the holodeck. This is gonna sound stupid, but here we go.

 

I've always assumes that a deck is a floor or a story, as in an appartment building. If you life on the fifth floor, its the same thing as being on deck 5 if it were a ship kinda thing.

 

Why do they call it the holoDECK? It's not as if an entire level of the ship is dedicated to holography, its a room, a smalish black room, with a yellow grid. They should have called it the Holoroom, or something.

 

 

[tinpusher]

Sovi3t that is not entirely true. I used to be in the US Navy and several of the "rooms" on our ships were refered to as "decks." The "Mess Deck" for example was just a room on the main deck. The "Refer Decks" (i know i always thought that was funny too) were just large walk-in refrigerators on the main deck. The "signal deck" was just a small room behind the bridge. Anyway there were many others but the point is that it doesnt have to encompass an entire floor to be called a deck. Hope this clears up any confusion.

[Weyoun]

Sovi3t that is not entirely true. I used to be in the US Navy and several of the "rooms" on our ships were refered to as "decks." The "Mess Deck" for example was just a room on the main deck. The "Refer Decks" (i know i always thought that was funny too) were just large walk-in refrigerators on the main deck. The "signal deck" was just a small room behind the bridge. Anyway there were many others but the point is that it doesnt have to encompass an entire floor to be called a deck. Hope this clears up any confusion.

 

Here is a quote that says it all to me.

" We're mopping the deck, which is navy for floor,

and when we're done mopping, we'll mop it some more."

From family guy. It was part of a song.

[melkor41]

I posted this very thing a day so ago...

 

Data was swapped with B4, plus he transfered all of his data to him, it's logical to assume that Data was probably in the habit of doing daily or weekly backup of himself,...hmeeee

 

 

HEY! why not bring Data back as anyone, all he needs is the android body with the positronic system (severely simplified) and he could look like Brad Pitt or some other actor who needs a sci-fi job.

 

The errors I have to think about, one in particular disturbs me, but at this hour also eludes me.

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yup, its start trek 3-4 all over again he went back to the way he was "B4"(before). at the end of nemesis he starts to show datas well um data.. like the restore process takes a long time (hell our database at work takes 72 hours to restore all the sql databases if we have a total catastrophic failure.)

[melkor41]

When I was at the pub yesterday, waiting for my mate to come back to the table with a couple more pints, I started to wonder about the holodeck. This is gonna sound stupid, but here we go.

 

I've always assumes that a deck is a floor or a story, as in an appartment building. If you life on the fifth floor, its the same thing as being on deck 5 if it were a ship kinda thing.

 

Why do they call it the holoDECK? It's not as if an entire level of the ship is dedicated to holography, its a room, a smalish black room, with a yellow grid. They should have called it the Holoroom, or something.

 

 

I think its short for holographic decking. like wood decking but holographic.

[str82u]

Let's not be silly' date=' All Good Things was written well before Nemesis. They don't make these things up all at once and spit them out on screen every ten years you know.[/quote']

 

It isn't silliness, but nit-picking, and that's what it's all about. Even though they hadn't thought up the story line for Nemisis back when "All good things.." came out, when they did come up with it, the creative consultants or Trek consultants should have done something th fix this, unless., of course, the B4 idea I mentioned earlier was the fix to this. I bet if you cornerned a writer about it they would tell you something close to that.

 

With all the Navy terms used on the shows, the deck thing seems settled.

[Soulreaper]

In the very first season of TNG they are very much like in TOS.

 

Why I've decided I prefer DS9 ahead of TNG is because TNG is all about "monster of the week" mostly. There are several times throughout Seasons 1-3 where Picard & gang encounter beings perhaps not as powerful as Q but somewhat like junior Qs. What happens to them? After each episode it's all "forgotten" like these guys / phenomenons never existed.

 

That's a continuity error for ya!

[Weyoun]

Has anyone noticed that in the first couple seasons of ds9, sisko keeps saying things that heavily imply his father is dead? Like when the guy that worked with Odo was in the medical area, and sisko tells odo a story about how he watched his father go weak in a hospital bed, and in the end there was nothing he could do for him.... I think there was another time they mentioned something to that extent earlier on than that too. And right now I am watching 2x15 Paradise, and he was saying that his father "was a chef."

 

Later in the series his father IS a chef and they show him a lot... Any explanations?

[Soulreaper]

I think it is because they haven't had contact in years and Sisko doesn't know whether his father lives or not (if I remember correctly)

[Weyoun]

I think it is because they haven't had contact in years and Sisko doesn't know whether his father lives or not (if I remember correctly)

 

Meh. I have been watching my ds9 eps in order and Sisko never mentioned his dad again either as alive or dead from the last episode I mentioned until 3x26. And then in passing he said "... I barely had time to send my father a transmission..." I am at that episode now.

 

Grr. That's annoying. I suppose I may have missed a mention of his dad, but nothing big, since I was listening for it, definately not anything that explains the beginning. I think the writers forgot.

[Weyoun]

Ok. Watching still, and now on episode 4x11 Homefront, is the first time they have actually shown Siskos dad. They seem happy with each other, and are just chatting. This still doesn't make any sense. There must not be an official explanation, or I probably would have heard it by now.