underscore Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Lumley would probably be about the only person that could pull it off imho..... It would be difficult for anyone to do a good job of it when the doc is so established in his gender after 40 years....... It would take a hundred weight of hormones to shift perceptions of him as being male. I loved the first openly bi character being in the new who series.... that should have set some nazi a-holes on a big hate and denial trip :) gotta love anything that iritates bigots!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 And besides' date=' really the gender of the Doctor doesn't matter - the character's morale outlook, wonderlust, sense of adventure would all be the same. That's what the makes the doctor - the personality and the old fashioned sense of heroism in this dark age of anti-heroes.[/quote'] Right-e-o! Agree 100%. I think a female doctor would be an advantage. Everyone knows there's not enough blood in the human body to run the brain and the "willie" at the same time. :p Women have a natural advantage. c4 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I don't know... I think it's pretty logical for a time lord to always regenerate the same gender that they were born. Anything else at this point would seem like a tacked-on ratings ploy. After 10 shots, he would have become a girl at least 5 times through pure random chance, after all... there are only two options, after all ^^' As far as the brain-willie theory? Riiight... Sexism, no? Hearing it from either side is annoying as hell and a rather tacky as a joke, imho. That's just my opinion, though. Edit: ... and no, I don't agree with RTD's explanation either... or DirkDiggler's ;p Edit 2: ... and if I seem to lack a sense of humor, it's because I've been around WAY too many guys AND girls who have actually used those inane sayings seriously to exclude people from various things ;p ... it's just a peeve of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I don't know... I think it's pretty logical for a time lord to always regenerate the same gender that they were born. Anything else at this point would seem like a tacked-on ratings ploy. After 10 shots, he would have become a girl at least 5 times through pure random chance, after all... there are only two options, after all ^^' As far as the brain-willie theory? Riiight... Sexism, no? Hearing it from either side is annoying as hell and a rather tacky as a joke, imho. That's just my opinion, though. Well, at least you did realize that it IS a joke...so all hope is not lost. At any rate...no offense meant. As a woman I can tell you that WE put up with a lot more "jokes" than men do...just ask any blonde! As for your comment "After 10 shots, he would have become a girl at least 5 times through pure random chance, after all... there are only two options, after all"...not so. There are many shades of gender that are now being recognized by the medical community. Variety is the spice of life! Edit 2: ... and if I seem to lack a sense of humor, it's because I've been around WAY too many guys AND girls who have actually used those inane sayings seriously to exclude people from various things ;p ... it's just a peeve of mine. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK. Frankie says RELAX! :p c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Genetically, there are two... XX and XY. All others are built by culture, neurochemistry, and choice ^^ Edit: Original was less accepting than I intended ^^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Genetically' date=' there are two... XX and XY. All others are built by culture... like all other good things ^_^[/quote'] Man, you need to do some serious Google time on the XX and XY thing. As a transsexual woman I know. Check it out. EDIT: Caught your quote before you changed it. Who's fast? c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I'm speaking strictly biology, of course. If ya know about any other gender than male or female among non-hermaphrodites, I'd love to know about it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 EDIT: Thought I should add this disclaimer. "The above cartoon is NOT meant to belittle or defame any individual or group or group of individuals or..." well, ya get the idea... c4 ;) ~ i won't do your homework for you either! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 No, I'm genuinely curious... IS there a third gender that has suddenly popped up? Something that isn't male and isn't female? Note: I'm not talking about sex changes etc... that's just swapping one for the other, not making a third new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Think I'm gonna let this subject die. Seems my last post was moderated. I think it's getting to be a bit too PC around here. If you like we can take up the subject by email. You'll find my email addy under my profile. EDIT: Have a nice evening! c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Will do... you too, and yes, this is probably getting a bit strange for a non-mirror discussion ^^' Edit: Heh... at 5 in the morning, most first drafts aren't really what are meant to be said... thus the editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I can move it to the Mirror forums, if you want ;)? *Fen returns from a day or so's R&R* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sex is biological, but gender is socially constructed. So, it is possible to be biologically born into a certain sex, but have a different gender identity. XX and XY are not the only combinations either. Some people are born X0 (X only), with extra Xs, for example, XXY, and some XYY. These are rare, but they do happen. As long as you have at least two XXs, your sex is female. See, for example: http://Http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm As for the Doctor as a woman, it's already been done by a filmmaker in the U.S. "In the 1980s, a Seattle-based filmmaker named Ryan K. Johnson produced four movies with a female Doctor. They were: Doctor Who: The Wrath of Eukor (1984) 30 minutes Doctor Who: Visions of Utomu (1986) 32 minutes Pentagon West (1987) 28 minutes Doctor Who: Broken Doors (1988) 20 minutes You can still get copies directly from Ryan by sending him a blank VHS tape and enough money for return postage to: Ryan K. Johnson 7025 27th Ave NE Bothel WA 98115 e-mail: rkj@eskimo.com URL: http://www.eskimo.com/~rkj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Wow. Thanks for the find there :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I haven't seen the movies, but someone else on another forum said they are quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Sex is biological, but gender is socially constructed. So, it is possible to be biologically born into a certain sex, but have a different gender identity. XX and XY are not the only combinations either. Some people are born X0 (X only), with extra Xs, for example, XXY, and some XYY. These are rare, but they do happen. As long as you have at least two XXs, your sex is female. See, for example: http://Http://anthro.palomar.edu/abnormal/abnormal_5.htm Hmmm.... it seems unfair and unpolite to point out that I'm more than aware of the first and second sentences, but hey I'm a petty sort of girl :rolleyes: Thanks for the links, I definitely going to check those out B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektram Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I think it'd be cool, but I really couldn't care to be honest, I'm waiting for the Doctor to regenerate into the body of a 10 year old :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Some people are born X0 (X only), with extra Xs, for example, XXY, and some XYY. These are rare, but they do happen. As long as you have at least two XXs, your sex is female. I drink XX's (Mexican) beer. Does that count? :p c4 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Sex is biological' date=' but gender is socially constructed. So, it is possible to be biologically born into a certain sex, but have a different gender identity. . . .[/quote'] Hmmm.... it seems unfair and unpolite to point out that I'm more than aware of the first and second sentences, . . . . I don’t see why it’s ‘unfair,’ or ‘unpolite,’ as you do have a personal understanding of the issue that most of the rest of us lack. Thanks for the links, I definitely going to check those out You’re welcome. I drink XX's (Mexican) beer. Does that count? :p Well, I guess that all depends on what you want to be counted as. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Some people are born X0 (X only), with extra Xs, for example, XXY, and some XYY. These are rare, but they do happen. As long as you have at least two XXs, your sex is female. I drink XX's (Mexican) beer. Does that count? :p c4 ;) It only counts if you share them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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