The Day After

[tinpusher]

Nulear War! - In lawrence kansas?

I remember watching this movie as a child and being absolutely terrified. The cold war was a very scary time. Im glad that my son doesnt have to live with that fear. I remember we used to have nuclear war drills at my elementary school. LOL like ducking our heads under our desks was gonig to some how miraculously save us from a nuclear blast/winter/fallout.

 

[GeneralLee]

Oh yea, I remember that one! It was a made for TV movie in the USA, that aired in 1983 if I recall. That movie, freaked out most of the country. It was very well done, though the details are sketchy.

[Antilles]

Yes I remember it too, only seen it once and that was in 83. Someone may have it somewhere.

 

Ive been after another film from the same period, altho not sci-fi it was kinda futuristic and modern at the same time. Called 'Class of 1984' or 'Class of '84' (one of the 2) about a rough, gang-controlled high school in America where guns and knives etc get smuggled into the school as it has very high airport style security at the entrances. Roddy McDowell played one of the teachers who was driven over the edge by some of his unruly pupils and goes on the revenge with a gun. The new head master and his family are terrorised by the main gang and his leader throughout the film, and if i remember right he gets revenge in the end and the gang leader goes crashing through the glass roof right into the assembly hall where some kind of presentation or show is going on. Typical 80s style movie and Im sure not far from the truth about the state of some of the schools in those days ( and now I bet).

 

If anyone has this, could you upload it in the interest of it being a classic 80s violent school drama.

[elderbear]

Nulear War! - In lawrence kansas?

I remember watching this movie as a child and being absolutely terrified. The cold war was a very scary time. Im glad that my son doesnt have to live with that fear. I remember we used to have nuclear war drills at my elementary school. LOL like ducking our heads under our desks was gonig to some how miraculously save us from a nuclear blast/winter/fallout.

 

Although we don't have a beserk ex-actor for President, threatening nuclear destruction against a dogmatic, corrupted, military-fascist "Communist" evil empire, most of the weapons still exist. We've had some close calls, even since the Wall came down. It's not time to be complacent - even if the threat has somewhat reduced. We now have lunatics who think that tactical nukes should be used as bunker busters - and other lunatics who think that their jihad might be well served with a nuke in NY, DC, or Tel Aviv.

[tinpusher]

Yes the Day After freaked out alot of people. 83 was the height of the coldwar and tensions were high everywhere. I remember that they had an 800 number scrolling across the bottom of the screen so ou could call and talk to a counselor to help you deal with the "horror" that you had just witnessed.

[S0V13T]

From what I remeber about living in the soviet union as a kid (and from what my family says about it) 'Our' movies were unreal - the premise for all of them was exactely the same as "Red Dawn" / Command and Conquor: Red Alert / Red Alert 2. "Soviet Supermen" waltz in on the timid, weak and terrified United States and take over practically over night with no risistance, ushering the golden age of the People's GLORIOUS SOVIET SOCIALISIM, THE HIGHEST FORM OF DEMOCRACY! Praise Gloriorious Lenin, Workers of the World Unite, Stalin Our Mighty father, da comrade commisar!

 

Well, you get the idea, lol. The cold war was so different on our side. The Commies actually believed (or more accuratelly led the people to believe) that the mighty USSR and its dominions would rule the world by now, so there was no "What if the USA won" kind of fiction.

 

I actually love watching the american cold war movies / fiction, for that exact reason. Really really interesting stuff, I kinda shed a tear inside whenever the USA beats the soviets in the movies, but atthe same time, I give a "right on" when I bomb the hell out of an allied base in red Alert, lol

 

Yeah, we kinda frigged off as soon as we could when the Union dissolved for a reason. I'm nostolgic about the USSR (as you can tell by my net handle, but wouldn't go back for all the rubles in moscow (thats about $5 American cents). Love it in Canada, and don't mind the Americans one bit.

[Recoilzed]

Yeah, I saw it very young and didn't know it was a movie (on one of the newcast scenes) Distrubingly, my parents ad no idea either, definate damage done to the psyche.

 

A great documentary about this..... "The Atomic Cafe" is definately worth a view for you all.

 

"duck and cover" :shiver:

[Recoilzed]

BTW was this a request?

 

I think I can get a hold of it, but it will be a week or so...I'm kinda committed right now....

PM me to remind me

 

Day After ..... not Atomic Cafe

[GeneralLee]

83 was the height of the coldwar and tensions were high everywhere.

 

Oh really now? Do you actually think that is true? Thinking back, I don't at all really.

 

I lived thru that period as well as all of the 1960's and half of the 1950's, and believe me, 1983 and thereabouts, and the "cold war" then, was nothing, at least in my own memory. Like Elderbear hinted at, it was mainly due to Reagan as President of the USA, and the fact that the term "cold war" was in the news a lot back then.

 

You and others hid under desks, we were trained to build bomb shelters, and, hide under desks, and to prepare ourselves for nuclear fallout. Actually, that training may still prove useful someday.

 

Remember the "Bay of Pigs" incident from about 1961-62? You talk about world tension.... (believe me, it was tense as all get out back then) "Cold War" (what a stupid term) at it's best. I was in Kindergarten back then, and still remember it. Matter of fact, many speculate that John F. Kennedy was assassinated for his stand during that period, as well as his belief to not get involved in Vietnam, and, for his belief in UFO disclosure. Now, THAT, was cold...

 

I'll stay away from the Korean and Vietnam conflicts for now, as they were actually wars, of a sort, and not so cold...

 

Let's just hope this phase in our evolution as a people on this planet has passed, or is nearly completely passed, then we can move on to greater things, possibly explore deeper areas of the Universe soon, and perhaps make 1st Contact (publicaly) finally. If we can just get over our own biases, rascist thoughts, and prejudices, we may stand a chance.

 

Anyhow, "The Day After" DVD is available for rental, think it would be a good one to rip and torrent?

 

 

[Antilles]

I nearly forgot too, theres a very very good UK effort from 1984 called 'Threads' showing a 'Pre' and 'Post Nuclear' Britain, it was quite shocking for its time and still stands up to the horror now! Definitely worth a look. Shame it picked on Sheffield for filming though hehe!

[tinpusher]

I use the ter "height" in relative terms. I'm old, but im not that old. So for me 1983 was the time when tensions seemed to be at the breaking point and it kinda went down hill from there.

 

BTW: I wasnt making a request, just trying to stimulate conversation because I had run across the DVD at a local department store and bought it so I could see if it was as scary as I remembered it. . . . it was.

[mcant]

Never seen it, would like to, Not sure if it was ever aired in the UK

 

BTW Me and generalLee are about the same age, and I remember vaguely the Cuba Missile crisis. My father was a policeman then (ex regular army) he was recalled to the army and posted away, thats how bad it got and that was in England!

 

On a side note, I should mention that years later he told me that all the old soldiers with families had "borrowed" weapons, ammo, food and medicines (which they had stashed away) and planned to head back for their families if the shit had hit the fan

[coolcat13]

I remember the scrolling on the bottom of the movie :This is only a movie do not panic lol it was quite entertaining actually but prolly one of those movies that would seem silly now

[elderbear]

Yes the Day After freaked out alot of people. 83 was the height of the coldwar and tensions were high everywhere. I remember that they had an 800 number scrolling across the bottom of the screen so ou could call and talk to a counselor to help you deal with the "horror" that you had just witnessed.

 

I'm not sure 83 was really the height of the cold war. We came a lot closer to the end in October 1962 - the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

And even earlier than that, even pacifists like Bertrand Russell went a bit bonkers and suggested the the US immolate the USSR in a first strike because it was a logical necessity.

 

Comparatively speaking, '83 was a calm year ... a year when we were actively sponsoring terrorists in Nicaragua and El Salvador and supporting what would later become the Taliban and al-Queda in Afghanistan.

 

The re-awakened awareness of the Cold War and nuclear threat came because Ronald Reagan began saber rattling as the Greens were forming coalitions to keep the US from deploying Pershing (?) nukes in Europe. The tensions that the public had tried to ignore returned to consciousness.

[elderbear]

Let's just hope this phase in our evolution as a people on this planet has passed, or is nearly completely passed, then we can move on to greater things, possibly explore deeper areas of the Universe soon, and perhaps make 1st Contact (publicaly) finally. If we can just get over our own biases, rascist thoughts, and prejudices, we may stand a chance.

 

Isn't this the longest that Europe has gone in recorded history without a major war? Certainly Western Europe (as we've had the fighting over the former Yugoslavia, the Soviet invasion of Czechaslovakia (pardon my misspelling) in '68, and the Soviet invasion of Hungary in '56 (?)). I suppose I'm overlooking the struggle in North Ireland ... but still, compared with the first half of the 20th Century, the second half (even under the nuclear cloud of doom) has been an unprecedented time of peace.

 

Doesn't mean that it's time to pat ourselves on the back and imagine we're finished ... but it does tell us that peaceful cooperation and competition are possible, and that we like them much more than ongoing warfare!

[GeneralLee]

BTW: I wasnt making a request' date=' just trying to stimulate conversation because I had run across the DVD at a local department store and bought it so I could see if it was as scary as I remembered it. . . . it was.[/quote']

 

Well then, if you have the DVD, why not rip and convert it, to say 350megs, then make a torrent of it? I'd download it, and it would save me the trouble of renting it :)

[tinpusher]

Well then, if you have the DVD, why not rip and convert it, to say 350megs, then make a torrent of it? I'd download it, and it would save me the trouble of renting it :)

 

You got it! Ill rip it in the next couple of days, but it seems a shame to rip to only 300 megs, Ill rip to about 650. Im on a slow machine so it will take a couple days to do plus ive got a couple other requests im working on.