Fenriswolf Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I could never see Eric Roberts as the Master, to be honest even though it was a farce, Johnathon Pryce would have made a much better Master from Curse of Fatal Death. The right lines and so on, he can be an excellent actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 ... not to mention the resemblance to Roger Delgado, the first and best Master ^^ Edit: Talking about Jonathan Pryce, not Eric Roberts ^^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I don't know, Roberts' Master was kinda glammy and androginous (sp?) like David Bowie as the Master. Pryce's was just a parody of the Delgado and Ainley (sp?) Masters. At least Roberts' was.... unique. (If you remember playing Castle Wolfenstein on the Apple II then yeah, like me, you are showing your age.) PS I promise to refrain from illustrative jokes in future, as the emphasis seems to have been shifted from the humor to the illustration and where's the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Knock off was meant innocently enough .Dalek is and remains the best sci fi TV show that I have ever seen! of course at this time I am still awaiting BadWolf to see if it will be better than Dalek but Dalek is at this time the show which all other shows are measured against in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 So coolcat13, is Dalek dethroned or does it still remain strong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 you know I have given this a bit of thought and even talked to a few newbies about the two eps and the winner is by split decision Dalek remains the champ but Parting of the ways has all the makings of taking down the champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 actually I thought that this would be a good time for a revised episode score card ep 1 = 7 ep 2 = 9 ep 3 = 9 ep 4 = 6.5 ep 5 = 7 ep 6 = 10.0 * ep 7 = 8 ep 8 = 9 ep 9 = 9.5 ep 10 = 4.5 ep 11 = 9.0 ep 12 = 10.0 * best of season so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 you know I have given this a bit of thought and even talked to a few newbies about the two eps and the winner is by split decision Dalek remains the champ but Parting of the ways has all the makings of taking down the champ Fantastic! I can't wait for ep. 13 I have to admit *jitter* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I think I forgot what the actual topic of this thread was, or someone did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I think actually the thread's run its course, but that tends to happen in threads where there's only a finite number of things one can say about the movie. I.E. not bad but could have been better, or total waste of time/money they should have used the budget to re-invent the show at the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Personally, I love the movie. Sylv's death scene actually brought a tear to my eye when I watched it on FOX. I'm slowly wearing out the tape I made that night back in '96. Wish I could get it on DVD....ah, well I'll have the same problem with the new series for a while too. Pity us over here in the US. (On the other hand Canada is only twelve miles away.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 sorry about the off topic posts . So back on topic , I was unimpressed with the portrayal of the Master .The plot was weak at best .If it was supposed to be cohesive cannon then how can the Master have been executed on Skaro since that planet was blown up before the last of the Master scenes .and what were the chances that the Daleks would have allowed the Dr to pick up the Masters remains . then there is the whole half human thing . which would have been picked up by the TimeLords when the Dr was facing Omega or during the 5 Drs or the several other times that the Dr has clashed with the Time Lords like War Games when he was banished to Earth and the mental blocks were put in his head . No this movie was not a good Dr Who story except that it was an attempt to revive the show and bravo to that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Personally' date=' I love the movie. Sylv's death scene actually brought a tear to my eye when I watched it on FOX. I'm slowly wearing out the tape I made that night back in '96. Wish I could get it on DVD....ah, well I'll have the same problem with the new series for a while too. Pity us over here in the US. (On the other hand Canada is only twelve miles away.)[/quote'] If you're really really stuck I could get it for you on DVD and ship it over as a last resort. coolcat13: I'd have certainly dumped the half human part of that story like a hot rock, and I hope that it's something that RTD has discarded for certain in the new series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The plot was weak at best .If it was supposed to be cohesive cannon then how can the Master have been executed on Skaro since that planet was blown up before the last of the Master scenes .and what were the chances that the Daleks would have allowed the Dr to pick up the Masters remains . then there is the whole half human thing . which would have been picked up by the TimeLords when the Dr was facing Omega or during the 5 Drs or the several other times that the Dr has clashed with the Time Lords like War Games when he was banished to Earth and the mental blocks were put in his head . Let's see.... It's a show about "Time Travel"; so how could a time traveller be executed on a planet that was destroyed? Hmmm.... Then of course there is always the chance that Skaro in the time period where the Master was executed was ruled by the humanized Daleks from Evil of the Daleks (might explain the wimpy voices too). According to the Novels only the 7th and 8th Doctors were "half-human" as some enemy or another was attepting to rewrite his DNA (Unnatural History is the book's title I believe.) Besides when has Doctor Who ever worried about cannon? After all there have been 3 different explanations for the sinking of Atlantis given during the programs run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Fenris: As I said, Canada's right across the lake. It'll be cheaper to jump across and pick one up there than to buy a region free DVD player. I still have a few more viewings left on my tape...although seeing commercials for shows that have long been canceled is starting to make me feel my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Ah, yeah, there's that regarding the region free DVD player. I have a VHS of the Dr. Who movie still in its packaging, plus one version of it that's probably close to on its last legs. It was all we had back then though *G* until BT really took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 well cannon aside I would refer to the 1st half of my statement ...weak plot and poor representation of my favorite Dr Who villan ,The Master .who was more a maniac in the movie than a cunning and devious opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 well cannon aside I would refer to the 1st half of my statement ...weak plot and poor representation of my favorite Dr Who villan ' date='The Master .who was more a maniac in the movie than a cunning and devious opponent [/quote'] Traditionally the first story of any Doctor has a weak plot, owing to the actor and production team having to find the Doctor as opposed to already knowing him. I will agree that the Master is a bit of a maniac, but he's desperate...he'd probably allow the cybermen to partially convert him if it would stave off his death. The character won't return to his Delgado glory days until he has a stable body in no immediate danger of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Ah, yeah, there's that regarding the region free DVD player. I have a VHS of the Dr. Who movie still in its packaging, plus one version of it that's probably close to on its last legs. It was all we had back then though *G* until BT really took off. The sad thing is that even if I do manage to get my grubby little protuberances on a new copy, it won't match the content of the tape of the actual US broadcast that I've got. Wish Universal and FOX would come to their senses and make it available here. I may have to get cable and tape it off of the Encore Mystery channel this month (though why they are showing it is beyond me), provided of course that it is the uncut US version that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzzard77 Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 i have a copy of the UK DVD and it is uncut. The best way to play it is through your computer though. DVD Region Free is a good proggy to let you watch whatever. you can then make ntsc clones to play on your usa DVD play at home. orked great with my Blakes 7 discs as well. The DVD also has a tour of the TARDIS et with phillip segal that really cool, there is alot of it you dont see in the movie. Check it out. Amazon.co.uk sells it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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