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TNG may be 10 yrs ago, but NEMESIS was 3 yrs ago. Frakes and Sirtis really let themselves go. As for my appearance, I'm an ADONIS! HEHEE

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As for the producers. Hang them from a tree, slit their bellies and let rabid dogs toy with their dangling intestines.. while they are still alive and watching.

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Wow, if you didn't hate the episode and you voted the people who made it be "flayed and dragged from the back of a truck," I hate to think what you would have done to them if you really thought the episode sucked.

 

If I had hated the ep, I would have voted for them to have every non-vital body part minced up, but still be kept on them, cut off with a dull knife, ground up with an extremely painful poison, and then force-feed that mixture to them.(or something like that)

 

Thanks for the ep number, I hated that one, but since it wasn't the last one, their punishment wouldn't have been that horrible.(just the painful poison)

 

See if you can guess what I think IE's punishment should be.(look at the avatar)

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I felt like they had kicked me in the private parts with the rather ludicrous tie-in to attract old tng trekkers, so I voted for the appropriate retaliatory response. After a reasonably good final season, they ended with... that. I'm terribly disappointed, however, kicking those two in the nuts would make me smile.

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Ok, let's get one thing straight here. This is a high concept episode, and some people won't like or be bothered to fully follow the concept. When I watched it, I thought 'this is stupid'. The moment Will or Deanna appear, we know that we're watching not our heroes of the last four years, but a HOLODECK SIMULATION of the events they participated in. Therefore, how much of what we see actually happened and what was added by historians when the program was written? Archer and his crew didn't take a documentary team everywhere they went, so all we're seeing is some holoprogrammer's interpretation of it.

But then that concept is a very clever way of getting across the sheer scale of what Archer eventually achieved. Will and Deanna are in a holodeck. Archer and his crew actually made it happen...they built the Federation. When you think about it, Will and Deanna are trying to imagine what facing that destiny meant, a destiny they could never dream of. Sure, they've both saved Earth from its enemies, but what Jonathan Archer did was save Earth from it's greatest enemy...itself...by forming the Federation and therefore the future of the whole quadrant.

The fact that he had little idea how historic this would really be is at the heart of this episode.

Since they left spacedock Archer and his crew seldom thought of themselves as heroes, even after returning from the Xindi and Vosk incidents to celebrity and idolisation. They always just got on with the job at hand. After what they have lost at the end, victory in their quest for unification, no matter how substantial a victory, might have felt a hollow one...Trip is dead, the NX-01 is 'in mothballs' and all they have left for themselves are the memories.

Which someone used to create Will's holoprogram.

When you properly analyse the episode, it is actually quite beautiful. The problem is, not everyone wants to have to take an episode to bits and 'work it out' to get the main emotional themes. Like me, you might have wanted a nice simple plot with great drama, dialogue and victory at the end. With each series finale except DS9 the concept bar has been far too high for many viewers to gain an emotional connection with the story. It would've been cool this time, what with Enterprise being such an emotional journey, to have a finale that after watching it you don't have to go sit in a darkened room for an hour then watch again to get what the writers were trying to say.

 

we can't be afraid of the wind, Travis.
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Don't shoot Manny Coto! He's the one good thing about Enterprise, and as show-runner during season 4, he created some great stories.

 

 

 

It's Brannan Braga who should be shot, for destroying both Voyager & Enterprise years 1-3, in his job as show-runner. Also because he wrote the lousy finale. And speaking of the finale, there are several reasons why I hate it:

 

- This wasn't an Enterprise episode.

- It was a Next Generation episode w/ Riker/Troi as the stars.

 

- This wasn't a view of actual events.

- It was a fictional melodrama written by a holodeck hack.

 

- This wasn't a proper wrap-up to a show.

- It was a run-of-the-mill "gimmick of the week".

 

The finale SUCKED.

No wonder the Enterprise actors felt insulted.

 

And who do we think for this?

- Brannan Braga -

The Master of Suckitude & Lousy "gimmick" Ideas

 

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I think now it would do no good to do them any harm......imo its better to leave them alone and do a silent protest

 

Yeah, but it would make us feel a whole lot better!

 

c4 :p

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A condescending pat on the head.

 

I don't think the finale was that bad, but it certainly was one of the worst episodes in season 4.

 

Pat them on the head, like a dog who's too stupid to know that crapping in the kitchen is not OK. Then put them out of the house. They're clearly not housebroken - and may not have the ability to learn.

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I couldn't be violent about it, but I sure am disappointed. Pat on the head because it the least violent yet expresses my disappointment. The ending stunk and even Conner Trineer wasn't happy.

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Mystic77, good show. Mmmmm... B&B burgers, yum. Remember the ranks mean nothing on this forum, they just show how many posts you've done. There are so many things we can do to them, don't kill them, just burn them. They killed Star Trek! EVIL!

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I voted for them to surgically have something removed... and I know exactly what it will be... mmhmm

 

Reminds me of that scene from The World According to Garp where the ex-football player transexual is comforting Garp. This is after his wife was giving a final oral favor to her lover in his car. Garp coasted up the driveway with no lights on, rearending the lovers. The collision killed his son. John Lithgow playing the transexual says something like:

 

"I had mine surgically removed - but to have it done without anesthetic ..."

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