torjs99 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 My vote was for excellent. My star wars films in order of greatness are: Empire Star Wars (not SE! too long) Revenge Return Attack Phantom! (Let's forget about this one ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinp Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I thought this was an excellent movie. It made 4 5 & 6 so much better. I was amased at the amount of irony in it though. Vader being born as Padame is dying, the Obi Wan/Anakin fight and the Yoda/Chancellor fight, Luke's uncle standing on the crater looking at the sunset as Luke does in 4, and many more I can't think of at this moment. Overall a great movie, but I agree, there is too much time between 3&4. That might not be bad though, how interesting would Luke's childhood be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretMethod Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 About as interesting as Anakin's ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 LOL! - Obviously... But I tend to agree, it was a good movie as I've said before. The irony AND tragedy of becoming Darth Vader.. The most powerful Jedi yet the lonliest.. I'd agree also that the movie felt "short" due to it's really fastpace tempo overall - some things could have been let to take a little more time, though maybe they wanted to keep it at 2,5H...some claim that 3H movies are too much, I disagree, but that's me! Check it out, and enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 It sucked master scrota. I'm tired of all the animation. They should have used more REAL models.. it's just more life like and better looking damnit. Notice one of the younglings isn't even human, physically as well as appearance wise! And 99% of the storm troopers are CGI. Wayne Pygram (scorpius) was in the movie, but I don't remember seeing him. Lucas and his daughters were in there too somewhere, but I didn't see them. Dude should have known that the sith lord was lying when he said they will TOGETHER find the way to keep his wife from dying, because he told him that he already knew how to keep people from dying and or the chancellor was the only one who could save her by using his powers. There wasn't enough of Vader. Too much filler before the end, where it started to finally get exciting seeing Vader, then poof, the end, after 3 minutes of on screen time. I was hoping they would show more of him in action in the suit and fill the gaps between the time part 4 started. It was better than the last 2, but not by much. This should have been a 6 hour movie. They should have played T.I. Rubberband man in the background when showing Vader hehe. Man whom i is. Yoda(scrota) should have been smart enough to know that the emperor has the the "energy" and should have been ready to catch it, like he did in ep 2. _________________________ how interesting would Luke's childhood be? Luke was a sod buster. A dirt farmer. There's no story or excitement in that. The only thing they could do is make a movie on what Vader was doing to create the empire / rattle his saber at the time Luke was growing up. in episode 4-6 Darth Vader is a BIG guy. (Played by 6 foot somthing weightlifter He is 6' 9. One of my college instructors was that tall and had to duck his head to enter doorways. He doesn't look so much taller than others onscreen, but trust me, when you stand beside someone that tall, you'll feel short even if you're 6'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 *** Warning Spoilers *** I didn't mind revenge of the sith. The special effects are awsome, but they are in every movie these days. So we need story. The story I thought was good to - plans within plans - to take over and form a galactic empire and see how Darth vader comes about, but it did lack in a few places. Like how Anniken turns, one moment he stopping Master Windu from killing someone because it's wrong, the next moment his bowing before the emperor and murdering children. Suppose you can chalk it up to the power of the Dark side. I think it was better then the previous two. :thinking: erm because if windu killed palpatine then the secret of how to save amdala dies with him. so he serves the darkside ( he thinks ) cos he loves his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 thought it was grrrreat. i liked hoe everything was sewn up at the end even the point that fear is the path to the darkside, when anakin learns to use the darkside to save amidala because he had a vision that she would die but she actually died of a broken heart because of his actions. cool B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 LOL! - Obviously... But I tend to agree, it was a good movie as I've said before. The irony AND tragedy of becoming Darth Vader.. The most powerful Jedi yet the lonliest.. I'd agree also that the movie felt "short" due to it's really fastpace tempo overall - some things could have been let to take a little more time, though maybe they wanted to keep it at 2,5H...some claim that 3H movies are too much, I disagree, but that's me! Check it out, and enjoy! I'd say that the 3H mark is good for movies, heck, I watched every single LotR film at the cinema, without taking a break...am I nuts? Probably :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I'd say that the 3H mark is good for movies, heck, I watched every single LotR film at the cinema, without taking a break...am I nuts? Probably :) you probably got a sore ass. i thought the film was long enough and liked the pace tho have to see it again (...and again....and again...) so i can really enjoy. Soulreaper said:The most powerful Jedi yet the lonliest.. yeh, theyre not the most social bunch those sith's are they. cant imagine darth down the pub on a friday with his mates ay? "hey darth, good week?" "i slaughtered jedi children and helped overthrow galactic rule." "it is my DESTINY" (breathing noises) still pretty handy if you get in a fight :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grillguy85 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 thought it was grrrreat. when anakin learns to use the darkside to save amidala because he had a vision that she would die but she actually died of a broken heart because of his actions. cool B) She didn't die of a broken heart, that's just lame. She died because she was choked by anakin, and then she was on that hot as volcano planet, and she was driven insane because of anakin. droids wouldnt understand insanity, hence they can't diagnose it. any of those explanations are better than dying of a broken heart. And this movie doing better than the old trilogy combined he i dont think so :) I never said it would have to do better than the original trilogy combined. I said any of the movies. Ex. Episode 3 did better than Episode 4 Ex. 2 Episode 3 did better than episode 5 Ex. 3 Episode 3 did better than Episode 6 or the other 2, but nowhere did I say combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 thought it was grrrreat. when anakin learns to use the darkside to save amidala because he had a vision that she would die but she actually died of a broken heart because of his actions. cool B) She didn't die of a broken heart, that's just lame. She died because she was choked by anakin, and then she was on that hot as volcano planet, and she was driven insane because of anakin. droids wouldnt understand insanity, hence they can't diagnose it. any of those explanations are better than dying of a broken heart. And this movie doing better than the old trilogy combined he i dont think so :) I never said it would have to do better than the original trilogy combined. I said any of the movies. Ex. Episode 3 did better than Episode 4 Ex. 2 Episode 3 did better than episode 5 Ex. 3 Episode 3 did better than Episode 6 or the other 2, but nowhere did I say combined. the droids were trained physicians and physicians understand psychiatric problems, its part of their training they said that physically she was fine but was failing and that it could not be explained. they said she had lost the will to live. did you also notice that her kids looked about 5 when her funeral took place? additionally, had she been choked to death she would never have made it back to coracent (i dont know how to spell it) to give birth. only the emperor told vader she had died. it apparently wasnt true i dont know about bigger than all three originals but in terms of revenue it may make more money because prices have gone up. wait and see ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grillguy85 Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 But, do droids understand the ways of the force? She died by the force, unexplainable to the droids. I just simply refuse to buy she died of a broken heart. Just because you lose the will to live consciously, that doesn't mean your subconscious and all of your body functions wish to die, it goes against the natural order of things. It's so cheesy and lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 But' date=' do droids understand the ways of the force? She died by the force, unexplainable to the droids. I just simply refuse to buy she died of a broken heart. Just because you lose the will to live consciously, that doesn't mean your subconscious and all of your body functions wish to die, it goes against the natural order of things. It's so cheesy and lame.[/quote'] she didnt die of the force. she didnt die til much later. and obviously dyin of a broken heart is a figure of speech. to quote myself they (droid physicians) said that physically she was fine but was failing and that it could not be explained. they said she had lost the will to live. if you dont wanna accept that she died of a broken heart thats up to you but i even asked crazy phil and he said broken heart too, and he noticed it must be pretty bloody obvious cos he is so hammered most of the time he barely knows his own name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruk Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 She didn't die of a broken heart, that's just lame. She died because she was choked by anakin, and then she was on that hot as volcano planet, and she was driven insane because of anakin. droids wouldnt understand insanity, hence they can't diagnose it. My impression, supported by the emporer's explanation, was that Vader killed her from a distance due to his hate. Thus the reason why the doctors couldn't determine a cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 She didn't die of a broken heart' date=' that's just lame. She died because she was choked by anakin, and then she was on that hot as volcano planet, and she was driven insane because of anakin. droids wouldnt understand insanity, hence they can't diagnose it.[/i'] My impression, supported by the emporer's explanation, was that Vader killed her from a distance due to his hate. Thus the reason why the doctors couldn't determine a cause. she didnt die from chokin to death, she was simply stunned and unconcious. did it occur to you the emperor might be lying? once he told anakin she was dead and it was his fault it was all over and he had nothing to go back for the emperor isnt the most reputable fellow y'know ;) he only said it to take ownership of anakin. his life before that moment came to an end right then. and if you didnt notice, the emperor was lovin it also, WHY would vader kill her? he didnt hate her at all. he was angry when she arrived on the lava planet and started to choke her out of frustration at being unable to explain his actions and being misunderstood but that did not kill her at the end anakin was angry and confused for breaking from his jedi training and becoming a sith lord and being blamed by his wife for doin what he did to protect her. confused fella by the end and quite upset. amidala did not die from chokin. she died after childbirth because she lost the will to live. not because vader was sendin out "bad vibes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I'm shocked at the number of people who think Sith was an excellent movie. The only explanation I can think of is that their standards are so incredibly low because they were so disapppointed in I and II. Lousy plotting, performances (Portman used to be wonderful before Lucas got ahold of her), dialogue, you name it, this film is lacking it. Due to the structure of doing 1,2, and 3 last, there was practically nothing in this film that was a surprise, or exhilirating. The Emperor getting "hit with the ugly stick" as someone put it was about it. At least it didn't end by flying into the middle of something, and blowing it up. Guess George figured he couldn't get away with it a 4th time. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I'm shocked at the number of people who think Sith was an excellent movie. The only explanation I can think of is that their standards are so incredibly low because they were so disapppointed in I and II. Lousy plotting, performances (Portman used to be wonderful before Lucas got ahold of her), dialogue, you name it, this film is lacking it. Due to the structure of doing 1,2, and 3 last, there was practically nothing in this film that was a surprise, or exhilirating. The Emperor getting "hit with the ugly stick" as someone put it was about it. At least it didn't end by flying into the middle of something, and blowing it up. Guess George figured he couldn't get away with it a 4th time. :rolleyes: of course there werent any bloody surprises. i have knolwn what was gonna happen for the last 27 years. the dialolgue was scripted the same way the originals were. and im lookin forward to the series too :cyclops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 of course there werent any bloody surprises. i have knolwn what was gonna happen for the last 27 years. the dialolgue was scripted the same way the originals were. While that's true about the major plot points, it didn't have to be true about the film as a whole. Lucas could have surrounded the major plot points with minor ones that were new and exhilarating. But instead, what we got was endless light sabre fights, interspersed with each plot point, as if George was ticking them off: light sabre fight, "I'm pregnant", light sabre fight, "ooh, I'm feeling angry", light sabre fight, "gosh, I don't like you any more!" light sabre fight, "Hi, I'm Darth", out pops Luke & Leia, "Hey, we should hide these kids from Darth in the furthest reaches of known space. I know, how about hiding one in Darth's home town, with his half brother?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 of course there werent any bloody surprises. i have knolwn what was gonna happen for the last 27 years. the dialolgue was scripted the same way the originals were. While that's true about the major plot points, it didn't have to be true about the film as a whole. Lucas could have surrounded the major plot points with minor ones that were new and exhilarating. But instead, what we got was endless light sabre fights, interspersed with each plot point, as if George was ticking them off: light sabre fight, "I'm pregnant", light sabre fight, "ooh, I'm feeling angry", light sabre fight, "gosh, I don't like you any more!" light sabre fight, "Hi, I'm Darth", out pops Luke & Leia, "Hey, we should hide these kids from Darth in the furthest reaches of known space. I know, how about hiding one in Darth's home town, with his half brother?" holy shi t man, its sci fi and action and the only thing you can say is that there i s TOO MUCH? get a grip. how do you propose they do it? paper, scissors stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerotop Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Edsel I really dont think you understand George Lucas at all and his vision though not many does. Its cheesy its scifi and thats exactly how george wanted it to be. And why i like the movies and the books easy and fun entertainment. hmm liked error flynn movies too hmm hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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