StevenofNine Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 The Daleks with the pincers are from the 60s films, no? Someone mentioned sending the Doctor clues? Bad Wolf? How is the words "Bad Wolf" showing up in sound bites and text a clue? As evidenced in this ep, the Doctor didn't make a connection to the name. I'm becomeing more convinced it's Adam. And where did someone hear the Daleks had a new form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 I seem to remember seeing something, somewhere about various 'new' kinds of Daleks. It might even have been on Gallifreyone...but I wasn't the one that pointed it out. Flying Daleks and so on, not levitating mind you, flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 The Daleks with the pincers are from the 60s films' date=' no?[/quote'] Could be. I noticed because it is standing right behind Terrance, and the shadow it casts on the wall makes it very clear it isn't a plunger. Someone mentioned sending the Doctor clues? Bad Wolf? How is the words "Bad Wolf" showing up in sound bites and text a clue? As evidenced in this ep' date=' the Doctor didn't make a connection to the name.[/quote'] I'm not that convinced he didn't. To me, it was a classic Patrick Troughton moment -- make everyone believe something isn't important, but worry about it on your own. His reaction was just a tad too strong, considering Christopher Ecclestones' acting in the series so far, for my tastes... I have a suspicion about who is sending the clues, but it would be a definite spoiler for Ep. 12/13, something that is found on the web but not in the series or on BBC sites so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinpusher Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ok, as a "Die Hard" Dr. Who Fan, I need to clear something up right now. 1. They are not daRleks thaey are Daleks 2. It is not daRvos it is Davros. 3. Davros was not Human, Davros was a Kaled from the planet Skaro. *Umph* <-- That was the sound of me climbing down off of my soapbox. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ok, as a "Die Hard" Dr. Who Fan, I need to clear something up right now. 1. They are not daRleks thaey are Daleks 2. It is not daRvos it is Davros. 3. Davros was not Human, Davros was a Kaled from the planet Skaro. *Umph* <-- That was the sound of me climbing down off of my soapbox. :) well ok..... i don't know anyone who calls Davros - DaRvos though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ok, as a "Die Hard" Dr. Who Fan, I need to clear something up right now. 3. Davros was not Human, Davros was a Kaled from the planet Skaro. People always assumed that. Nowhere is it said that he couldn't be a human anyway, mind-wiped into believing he was a Kaled. Mind-wiped like Henry van Statten, left somewhere "beginning with an S" (the very words near the end of 'Dalek') -- Skaro. It would explain how the Daleks got their design, how Davros got the design of his wheelchair, how he got the idea of mutation end so on -- even if those were subconscious memories, the last vestiges of his experiences before the mind-wipe. I doubt that, what with the war against the Thals going on, the Kaleds had perfect public records, so getting into the scientific community should not be too hard for someone like Henry. We don't know whether Geocomtex has the option of extraterrestrial movement, and if they do, dumping van Statten somewhere faaaaar away might sound good to the workers saddled with the task -- less likely he'll find his way back and seek revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsw182 Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 I seem to remember seeing something, somewhere about various 'new' kinds of Daleks. It might even have been on Gallifreyone...but I wasn't the one that pointed it out. Flying Daleks and so on, not levitating mind you, flying. I remember seeing the same. I believe the BBC had to drop some of the designs from the show proper because the Terry Nation estate wouldn't authorise their use. Also, some "radical" new Dalek designs were leaked (and published in The Sun newspaper) but turned out to the spider robots from Ep2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinpusher Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Well, first of all, I'm kicking myself in the ass for reading the spoilers on this thread :cyclops: But it's not as if nobody, myself included, suspected this happening. I don;t know about the Adam and Mickey team up theroy.. just seems to WWF (or WWE, whatever they call it these days) ... but then again, I understand that the Dalek's have gone some kind of (presumabelly very minor) upgrade with their apperance, so maybe that could tie in with a new design, by a new Darvos (the Adam = Darvos theroy). But if Adam is Darvos, then that would mean that Adam built the first generation (prototypes) of Daleks, that were based on the Dalek that he based the design from. Then later, somehow becomes Darvos, and improves the design, that Adam / Darvos will get again in Van Statens's museum.... So... who origionally had the concept for the dalek.... oh dear, that's a paradox... beware the Kronovores / Things from fathers day! See. . . Darvos. And repeated too many times to be a typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ummm... no. It's definitely Davros, and has been in the credits of every Doctor Who show that character has shown up in, and every character called him Davros, so therefore he's Davros. The actual shows are better proof to me than a few 'Darvos's from SOV13T ^^ Dalek: "YOU HAVE CALLED US DARLEKS FOR THE LAST TIME! EXTERMINATE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I'm looking forwards to seeing Davros return, and played by such an unusual actor too *G* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I'm looking forwards to seeing Davros return' date=' and played by such an unusual actor too *G*[/quote'] Shhhhh.....not everyone knows he's in it yet - *SPOILER* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 1st Davros did not recognise the Dr in Genesis where they met for the first time 2nd the Bad Wolf references started before Adam met the Dr and yes it could be circular IE he could be Time Travelling and placing these Bad Wolf references Here are a few clues bieng over looked 1 someone is manipulating people into using the phrase Bad Wolf .They are also toying with the Dr by bieng subtle 2 they have to be able to Time travel and also know where the Dr is going 3 they have to be able to hypnotise humans and Aliens alike I have four working theories 1 The Rani a time traveler is messing with the Dr 2 The Master who can travel in time and hypnotise is the one messing with trhe Dr and he has had dealings with the Daleks 3 The Black Guardian who clearly has the ability to pull this off is behind it 4 The Daleks have The Dr trapped and are messing with his mind what would not surprise me is that the Dalek army was some how not real .That it was some illusion as well but as the countdown approaches Bad Wolf has all the makings of surpassing Dalek as the best ever episode of Dr Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 1st Davros did not recognise the Dr in Genesis where they met for the first time 2nd the Bad Wolf references started before Adam met the Dr and yes it could be circular IE he could be Time Travelling and placing these Bad Wolf references Here are a few clues bieng over looked 1 someone is manipulating people into using the phrase Bad Wolf .They are also toying with the Dr by bieng subtle 2 they have to be able to Time travel and also know where the Dr is going 3 they have to be able to hypnotise humans and Aliens alike I have four working theories 1 The Rani a time traveler is messing with the Dr 2 The Master who can travel in time and hypnotise is the one messing with trhe Dr and he has had dealings with the Daleks 3 The Black Guardian who clearly has the ability to pull this off is behind it 4 The Daleks have The Dr trapped and are messing with his mind what would not surprise me is that the Dalek army was some how not real .That it was some illusion as well but as the countdown approaches Bad Wolf has all the makings of surpassing Dalek as the best ever episode of Dr Who I know - they have been building up to this and this saturday's episode is just going to be amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 1st Davros did not recognise the Dr in Genesis where they met for the first time Doesn't discredit the 'van Statten as Davros' theory -- who knows what he will and will not remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Daleks monitor all kinds of transmissions, from electromagnetic to other types. What happens if they actually caught the Doctor on TV and that's why they turned up? Amusing thought that tbh. Dalek 1: It is the DOCTOR! Dalek 2: Change the channel! Dalek 1: EXTERMINATE THE TV! Dalek 2: But what of Neighbours? Dalek 3: Oh bugg-er... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 anyone look at this possiability Bad Wolf = B W = black&white= the guardians as maybe the white guardian is trying to warn the Dr about a trap laid out by the black guardian just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 As long as Bad Wolf is almost anything more then a Reality TV station / program, I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Wouldn't BG be more effective as a warning about the Black Guardian?... then again, 'Bad Wolf' looks better than 'Big Gerbil' scrawled on things, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Wouldn't BG be more effective as a warning about the Black Guardian?... then again' date=' 'Bad Wolf' looks better than 'Big Gerbil' scrawled on things, I suppose...[/quote'] Aiiiiee!!!! That's too scary!!! Plus it made me fire Cola out of my nose and across the keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 *imagines the 'Bad Wolf' site with a wheel in the background instead of a moon, and a fierce looking gerbil face peering out to that creepy music* ... y'know, that might've worked...? Naah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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