trebor Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 I my memory serves me correctly' date=' after a certain amount of time copyrighted materials become: Public Domain[/quote'] Quite right you are. Copyright used to be for 15 years. That is until Disney forced the courts to increase it to 25. When the copyright for Mickey Mouse was about to expire, Disney pressured the courts again to extend it to 50 years. Several years ago, they again had it increased to 75 and now they are corking hard to get the courts to make the copyright of material infinite, so that eventually no works would ever become public domain ever again. Imagine how the world would be if it was only valid for 15 years :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Heh. Someone else might be able to release a story involving a young Wizard and magic, without facing the wrath of Rowling ;) But I know what you mean. As a writer myself it would be nice to know that even after my demise many years from now, something I did would be still considered mine and people would have to go through the right channels to get the rights to turn it into a show or movie. In that respect I'm all for Disney. After seeing the atrocious movies filmmakers (I use that term loosely) like Uwe Boll can make from videogames (House of the Dead - Alone in the Dark). Or series like Earthsea, which are nothing like the original author's work - I have to admit I think it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inominata Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 H.G. wells wrote the 1st time travel story. Actually he was not really the first to create a time machine story. Wells wrote "The Chronic Argonauts" in 1888 which was later renamed as "The Time Machine". Several years earlier, Edward Page Mitchell sketched out plans for a device to travel into the past. In his "Clock That Went Backward" (1881), two boys discover a broken clock which, when wound backwards, transports them to sixteenth-century Holland. Even earlier than that there were time travel stories, but these did not involve a mechanical device to initiate the journey - ie L.S. Mercier's "L'an deux mille quatre cent quarante" (written in 1771; translated as Memoirs of the Year Two Thousand Five Hundred), the protagonist falls into a deep sleep and awakens seven hundred years later in Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 H.G. Wells is often credited as one of the Grandfathers of science fiction, but it makes me wonder exactly how many other writers, unpublished or published dabbled with that genre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 In that respect I'm all for Disney. The irony is, of course, that Disney stole most of his stuff and took credit for other people's work. Mickey Mouse, for example, is a rip off of the mice seen in Felix the Cat and most of the Disney cartoons use stories (Pinnochio, Snow White, etc...) stolen from other writers who never got a cent from Disney. Even recent Disney pictures such as The Hunchback of Notre-Dame and The Lion King proves that decades later, they still steal from other sources while claiming stricter copyright laws for themselves. In his "Clock That Went Backward" (1881)' date=' two boys discover a broken clock which, when wound backwards, transports them to sixteenth-century Holland.[/quote'] I always thought that that story was published in 1900. I was wrong. I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out to me. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I don't see the problem downloading stuff that would be on TV. It's like taping a show. I'm sure its not illegal to tape things onto VCR. If I'm not mistaken its also legal to tape things to DVD-R. So why not download these things if you have no TV? Now downloading DVDs or new games, that I would consider to be illegal because it is within a person's abilities to go to the store and buy it. If the price is too high, wait for the price to drop a bit. I personally would normally download things I can't find in stores. If the game or DVD is something you want to buy then go ahead, why wait forever for it to download? Some programs are too old to justify paying a heavy price. You can find Jedi Knight and Jedi Outcast in some stores for $10-15. However some programs like Star Wars Rebellion are closer to fifty dollars. That's a lot of money for a game that's been collecting dust in a warehouse for seven years. Nevertheless I prefer to buy my games so that I can get the full product-game manual, cover box as well as the game itself. My Jedi Academy manual justifies the $30 I spent on such a great game. Must kill dark jedi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 You need to clarify here. Sorry if I wasn't clear: I am all for material being in the public domain as quickly as possible and I am all for people having the right to copy things as long as it's 'not-for-profit' and personal use. That way fans can photocopy pages from books at their local library, tape a Tv program (like Dr. Who) that aired in the 80's and re-watch the tape 20 years later, make some fan art or even fan-made Dr. who videos and yes, even download material that aired on the public airwaves off some P2P site. That's what I'm all for :-) (in case i wasn't clear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 As long as no one's making a profit from it yep, then it's all good as far as I am concerned. Or trying to take credit for something that's not theirs, I have serious issues with that after being caught in that trap myself several times. *Mutters* that's the last time I work without a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I hear it was fairly successful as well' date=' which is a good thing, though I'm still a bit unsure about the whole 'timed' content.[/quote'] the downloads are only available for 7 days and when youve got them, they dont play after 7 days. Oh, yeah, no one's gonna figure a way around that 7 day limit, are they!!!!! :p ;) :cyclops: :rolleyes: :p Yep, my point exactly, someone'll crack that without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 we all know that it will be cracked . virtually nothing is safe from those with knowledge . I still hope that a project like this gets underway . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Hear hear. I'm all for spreading the good word of the Doctor to as many folks as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Its just like on line gaming . as long as they get something out of it they should not care that much about the piracy . besides they would be building interest in thier program and that is always a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 ok' date=' little guilt here, but i need to ask ppl....why choose to DL and most likely not buy the story, now that they are on DVD....[/quote'] I don't like Doctor Who. I'm making a list of my favorite episodes, and so far there are only 10 out of the first 10 years. I'd be wasting my money. More important reason - You can't purchase the "missing" episodes that have been reconstructed by the fans, and therefore are only available via the fans' uploads. Third and least important reason - Expense. I can buy most TV series in season boxes, which reduces per episode costs to just $2-3. In cntrast, the BBC charges ~$20 per episode. I can't afford that. So to reiterate: - too expensive - not all the episodes are available - even if they were, I don't like the Doctor enough to want to buy his shows troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Copyright is in place for 75 years AFTER THE DEATH of the author' date=' and includes his/her natural life. So, what we're talking about, if someone creates something at 30, lives to be 90, then dies, is a 60 + 75 = 135 year copyright.[/quote'] There's something not right about a great-great grandkid who gets rich off another man's published works, and that kid just sits on his butt all day, contributing nothing to society. Copyright should end when the original author dies. So when Ms. Rawling dies some 40 years from now, Harry Potter would be available for free, to any child who wanted to download it. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 There's something not right about a great-great grandkid who gets rich off another man's published works' date=' and that kid just sits on his butt all day, contributing nothing to society.[/quote'] Also known as: The Terry Nation Estate :stare: Copyright should end when the original author dies. Why? what about this -> 30 years after it's copyrighted, it should go in the public domain. Shouldn't the original Star Wars (for example) be in the public domain by now? I certainly have paid that movie personally several times over (theater, books, records, videos, special editions, laserdiscs, DVD's, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Vice-versa, I've only spent about 10 bucks on Star Wars (two tickets to Episodes 1/2). George Lucas deserves to earn money from his creation. George Lucas' son/daughter does not. The son/daughter should earn their own living, not sit on their asses all day raking in their father's profits. As for Disney, if those films fell into public domain, who would archive/preserve all the old Mouse/Goofy/Duck films? Or Snow White/Pinocchio/Dumbo? Just curious. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 As for Disney' date=' if those films fell into public domain, who would archive/preserve all the old Mouse/Goofy/Duck films? Or Snow White/Pinocchio/Dumbo?[/quote'] The American Film Institute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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