TFMF Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 But back to the subject at hand, I've noticed quite a few posts stating the fact that, as the BORG are based on the Cybermen, they are so similar, so a battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen would give us a clear indication of this battle too, although I think that the Cybermen would also need the help of other races. Humans for example. Daleks V cybermen would be different from Daleks V Borg - Borg would do things differently - the cybermen would use weapons to try and destory the daleks where as the Borg would try to capture assimilate and study the daleks - so although the Borg and Cybermen may seem similar - there techniques would be very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAvon Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I actually have a piece of fiction about the doctor (4th incarnation) landing of the Enterprise (Capt. Kirk era). I'll have to see if and when I can scan it (if there is enough interest). Oh, and the Daleks would win - monomanical genocide is a stronger "force" than assimilation... LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I actually have a piece of fiction about the doctor (4th incarnation) landing of the Enterprise (Capt. Kirk era). I'll have to see if and when I can scan it (if there is enough interest). Oh, and the Daleks would win - monomanical genocide is a stronger "force" than assimilation... LA sounds very weird - 4th doctor landing the Enterprise - i mean why. Might be interesting to see though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 yea I would be interested LordAvon . That would be rather amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taq22 Posted July 2, 2005 Author Share Posted July 2, 2005 But back to the subject at hand, I've noticed quite a few posts stating the fact that, as the BORG are based on the Cybermen, they are so similar, so a battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen would give us a clear indication of this battle too, although I think that the Cybermen would also need the help of other races. Humans for example. Daleks V cybermen would be different from Daleks V Borg - Borg would do things differently - the cybermen would use weapons to try and destory the daleks where as the Borg would try to capture assimilate and study the daleks - so although the Borg and Cybermen may seem similar - there techniques would be very different. The only way the BORG would capture and study the Daleks would be if the Daleks simply wanted to infeltrate them and they can't be assimilated. There are many posts on the subject of capturing and assimilating a Dalek and why it can't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 But back to the subject at hand, I've noticed quite a few posts stating the fact that, as the BORG are based on the Cybermen, they are so similar, so a battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen would give us a clear indication of this battle too, although I think that the Cybermen would also need the help of other races. Humans for example. Daleks V cybermen would be different from Daleks V Borg - Borg would do things differently - the cybermen would use weapons to try and destory the daleks where as the Borg would try to capture assimilate and study the daleks - so although the Borg and Cybermen may seem similar - there techniques would be very different. The only way the BORG would capture and study the Daleks would be if the Daleks simply wanted to infeltrate them and they can't be assimilated. There are many posts on the subject of capturing and assimilating a Dalek and why it can't be done. Well then how did the borg defeat species 8472 - yes with voyagers help but the borg could design a weapon that could disable the daleks using nanoprobes similar to the ones used to defeat 8472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taq22 Posted July 2, 2005 Author Share Posted July 2, 2005 That doesn't change the fact that a Dalek can't be assimilated and that Daleks have extremely effective effective shields and are encased in Bonded Policarbite armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 That doesn't change the fact that a Dalek can't be assimilated and that Daleks have extremely effective effective shields and are encased in Bonded Policarbite armor. In the episode 'Dalek' - Van Statton or who ever he was cut into that armour and was injuring the creature inside - so in the same way the Borg could cut in to the armour and inject the nanoprobes into the dalek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petra1989 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 In the episode 'Dalek' - Van Statton or who ever he was cut into that armour and was injuring the creature inside - so in the same way the Borg could cut in to the armour and inject the nanoprobes into the dalek that was after the Dalek had fallen through time and through the atmosphere. So I would say it was a little weak... As for the Cybermen Vs. Borg. The Cybermen would win because they have nothing to lose. No planet, etc.... But also because they would plead with the Federation for help. then after the Borg are finished turn around and attack the federation. That's what makes them dangerous, the ability to con or force someone to work for them. Personally I do not think the Borg would ever think of doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 Cybermen v Borg would be won by the Borg Cybermen are allergic to gold Borg can assimilate faster than the Cybermen Cybermen and Borg both have very primative levels of time travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 on the other hand no the Daleks would self destruct rather than give in to bieng assimilated . If Van Statten had been deemed a crediable threat that Dalek would have blown himself up / Daleks will exterminate themselves if they fail the supreme Dalek or Emporer Dalek or whoever is in charge at the time only once in Dr Who were Daleks manipulated and that was by Davros and they allowed him acess to thier biengs by order of the Supreme Dalek who was trying to recruit Davros's help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taq22 Posted July 2, 2005 Author Share Posted July 2, 2005 The Cybernisation prcess only takes longer because it's a more complete and intricate than assimilation. Cybermen are infinately more sophisticated than the BORG and so would win against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0xx Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 wtf r Daleks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taq22 Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 wtf r Daleks? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0xx Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 OMG - timbo must be joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 Or has no clue what Daleks are, there are some people that don't know what Doctor Who is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcat13 Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dalek = a race of genetically engineered creaturs in an armored battle suit that looks like a pepper pot .Each Dalek is a genious and have no emotion but hate .they have a deadly laser and seem to mainly lose to the Dr in Dr Who .It really is a great show Timbo and you should try and DL an ep if you get a chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Here is a nice picture of them: http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/iconsofwales/images/daleks.jpg Friendly stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 beaten and scarred Dalek Hmmm... do you think a borg drone would be in this good of shape after surviving a cube explosion, falling through time (in Doctor Who, the 'time vortex' destroys most things utterly...), and falling onto a planet meteor style and burning for three days? I don't think so... Edit: Remember, even in this state, anyone who touched it died in a horrible way due to the Dalek's offense/defense shield... not strong enough to stop the drill anymore, but good enough to kill people who touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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