GorunNova Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/europe/4081276.stm Yeah, that's a realistic claim by Pope Benedict... -_-' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martog Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 It seems some would rather see millions die as opposed to exploring means by which to help treat, study, and stop the spread of AIDS. I am serious, it seems the global plan is to see most humans dead. In the final analysis, the few who seek to destroy life do not represent the beliefs of the collective human spirit; our better nature, in time, will prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderbear Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Speaking to African bishops at the Vatican, the Pope described HIV/Aids in Africa as a "cruel epidemic". But he told them: "The traditional teaching of the church has proven to be the only failsafe way to prevent the spread of HIV/Aids." If a man has "sinned" and received absolution for his "sin," does this mean that his wife and unborn children are to be endangered by an infection that he may have picked up by "sinning?" Somehow I find the words of the Vicarus Filei Dei to be in utter contradiction to those of the actual Filei Dei! But with Ratz ... er, Benedict, this doesn't surprise me! He was, after all, head of the Inquisition (OK, they have a more PC term for it now, but he was still their leader). What an irony ... Benedict literally means "to speak well" or "to bless." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 W. T. F. . . . . ?? ;/ is the only comment I can express about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I think I'll just refrain from commenting here, at least what I really think, since I've got some pretty radical believes about this subject that have gotten me in trouble before. For example with my girlfriend and she's one who usually in the end says to me: you're right, not this time... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisP Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 It seems some would rather see millions die I agree with this. Do any of you remember back when the USA was supposed to be about helping people around the world and doing good? I remember Peace Corps commercials on TV, Littering commercials. Back when civic spirit was good. When I think about, then contrast that image to US companies suing Indian and other countries for producing cheap generic AIDS drugs, you have to wonder if the current policy of denying cheap AIDS drugs to Africa really is a plan to depopulate the continent. There are lots of raw minerals in Africa. Because of the Peace Corps stuff I grew up with, I really thought the USA would donate AIDS drugs to Africa. It would be treated like measles or tuberculosis or cholera or any of those other diseases where it is in the entire planets best interest to cure the disease. Maybe open the patent up so any country could make the drugs to save peoples lives. You want to hear something funny? The western world arranged to have a women environmental activist given the Nobel Peace Prize. The only other possibilites were Palestinians, Iraqis, French, all the people against the invasion of Iraq. So they gave a Peace prize to an environmental activist? It what was great irony, the very first thing this black african woman did was give a speech about how AIDS was a white plot to kill off Africans. ;) Needless to say, her PR campaign immediately disappeared and I never heard about her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beawulf Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 The argument that aids is a tool to punish the wicked is absolutely rediculous, there are 4 known varieties of aids. only one of them is in humans. one variety is in monkeys, cant imagine what their sin was.....masturbation perhaps? there are 2 varieties of aids in cats, with almost half of the cat population is infected. it isnt sexually transmitted, but is caught by being scratched (dont worry it cant affect humans) Aids affects the body in a similar way to the black plague, they are transmitted differently, but they both enter into the white blood cells to attack the nervous system. There is a gene that has been discovered in the survivors of the black plague that when inherited from both parents makes a person completely immune to the aids virus. This discovery is a great step forward to vaccinating people. I imagine the use of the vaccine will be considered immoral by the church because it disrupts the "will of god", and US companies will sue third world companies for trying to distribute it cheaply to those that need it most It's a sad world where profit is more important than lives :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 anyone believe the conspiracy theory that AIDS was an engineered virus to kill off the african pop'n so that the civilised world would have somewhere to expand in the future? if it was an engineered virus - wow, evil genius at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 17, 2005 Author Share Posted June 17, 2005 No... HIV has been around in monkeys for quite a while. It makes me wonder, though, how it passed to humans and adapted... one too many monkey bites, I assume, but it IS a STD... ^^' >_<... ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beawulf Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 not all the varieties are transmitted sexually. some cultures eat monkey, maybe they contracted a mutation of the monkey variety that way. doesnt explain the existance of cat varieties though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psheldrake1 Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Well, when you're as big a prjck as they are. It's hard to find a condom that fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcant Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Looked at logically the Pope's concept is correct! (though niavely simplistic) no premarital sex, fidelity in marriage, no sex without marriage hetero or homosexual, AIDS dies out in the Human race! Its TRUE! however it would need a world population of SAINTS and most of us are all too human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted June 20, 2005 Author Share Posted June 20, 2005 i.e. it is an impractical solution, even if everyone in the world were Catholic ^^'... and since a lot of Africa is NOT Catholic, it isn't a viable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderbear Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Looked at logically the Pope's concept is correct! (though niavely simplistic) no premarital sex, fidelity in marriage, no sex without marriage hetero or homosexual, AIDS dies out in the Human race! Its TRUE! however it would need a world population of SAINTS and most of us are all too human My father is a retired epidemiologist/MD, who spends a few days a week treating patients at the local AIDS clinic. He's also testified before the President's Commission on AIDS, and been a codeveloper of an HIV/AIDS education program for Africa that receives WHO funding (abstinence based). I brag on my dad because it's important that you realize he's one of those "infamous" experts. Here is his epidemiological prounouncement: If everybody in the United States was faithful to one partner for a mere six months at a time, the sexual spread of HIV/AIDS would drop below epidemic proportions. The way I understand it from my conversations with him, it would kill faster than it spread. But, when Benedict XVI makes a pronouncement that denies "safer sex" to those in all kinds of situations ... the man is evil, and his words are those of the Enemy of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_strekge Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 "de gloria olivae" according to Michelle de Notredame and St. Malaquias prophecy... His glory will be short and puerile like one who put a crown of olive leaves to someone, after his dead will come Petrus Romanus (the stone that the builders lost shalll be restored again in the roman church.) just right before the anti-Pope rising, the anathema, the most apostate of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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